Ragley Carnegie’s Bar August 21st, 2009
Key points:-
- 31.8mm clamp.
- 7075-T6 triple butted construction.
- Weighs in at under 300g (just under).
- Shot peened finish.
- CEN tested.
- It’s designed for riders wanting an alternative hand position to a regular straight bar.
- Width is 685mm tip to tip.
- 25 degree sweep with a 33mm forward wiggle to keep the controls in the right sort of place.
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Oh look its a Mary bar… Maybe Brant has run out of ideas?
tommid, that’s almost blasphemous round here. Didn’t you know, anything Brant touches is super-mega-double-plus brilliant.
shopping bike-tastic
would fit on the Singular lovely
My 700mm bars are now that shape after riding between two trees which were only 600mm apart.
why not use 4 less bends in the bar and a longer stem instead, or would that not be fashionable enough?
I bet its more mechanically efficient than the Mary.
Needs a Specialized sticker on it.
Does it make you a bit lame in one leg during the middle of the week?
I’d be interested to see how it feels. As above, shopping bike is the only thing that springs to mind? Could someone with firsthand exp describe the ride/feel? i’m all for experimentation, it improves things
Ergonomics… B-)
At first glance they look like they get somewhere close to not twisting the elbow joint while controlling the bike in predominant riding position. There is a sweat spot between horizontal ( straight bars) and vertical ( bar ends) hand position… The Old “north road” bars did something similar. There are also some water ski and kite controls of a similar shape.
First possible concern for me would be how close the sweep back could come to your knees in certain riding circumstances??
Hopefully the design should still put your hands somewhere close to the normal reach position with it’s “forward wiggle”..
Common sense…. yep.. whether it will catch on… not sure!
Zone
According to Chris Ball when we did our dirt school day (he’d never seen a Mary bar before til ours when one of the guys had one) bars like this are a real hinderance to your ability to ride down a hill properly, or in technical stuff. Having tried one, I’d agree.
Cybic-al, the odd thing is that for some reason … I like the look of them ….
I must be riding down hills improperly then – it’s more interesting than riding down them properly!
Looks like an OS Feegle Pro to me
Cynic-al. I agree. They are probably really comfy for delivering bread and/or riding to the local shops. A rider using these bars will never be able to corner properly and will limit their technical riding ability. Seeing as these are the best bits of mountainbiking, what’s the point in these bars….? get some normal bars then ride quicker, better and not look like a skinny jeaned, flat cap wearing, leather arm patch loving idiot.
“bars like this are a real hinderance to your ability to ride down a hill properly, or in technical stuff”
I must be a riding god then, as they (2 x Mary bars & 1 x H-Bar) don’t hinder me, in fact straight bars feel so un-natural after 4 years of riding with bars like these I don’t feel safe downhill on “normal” bars.
Don’t knock what you don’t know anything about or that you haven’t tried and tested.
personally i think hbar, mary and fleegle are the only bars that are ergonomically correct. the shape of the hand dictates the grips should point back and slightly down. obviously risers make your elbows stick out fore ‘more’ control / less comfort. i really don’t think fleegles reduce control and they are WAY comfier. mary’s may be a bit extreme but are still very comfy over long rides.
(my 2p)
I’ve ridden risers and Mary bars. I didn’t feel any more or less in control on descents or technical stuff with the Mary bars than with the risers.
Brant makes exacly the same product for CRCs own brand (thats all nukeproof is) and churns it out for twice the price. Look at the seatpost, its the same as a on- one one!
I’m pretty sure that the Nukeproof stems/posts/riser bars are pre-Brant
having ridden with midge, mary, nitto tache and salsa bell lap i think we should start a band we’d sound proper rock and roll
mary bars are great for offroad riding i may experience anyways . they were more comfy than normal bars much better on the wrists on rocky downs
ive used mary’s and Jones, and find the sweep to much, ive allways said id prefer 25 deg sweep, i even asked Jeff jones to make me some, he said no…….. so these could be perfect for what i was looking for, if they have no rise……..
I for one have found similar bars (fleegle) to be a great help.
Ordinary bars cause me to get numb hands, but the fleegles put the wrists in a more comfortable position and i can steer better for longer.