Anyone else see this? Happened yesterday apparently and is....well...pretty f'ing mental.
Warning...its a bit graphic.
More info:
http://www.theurbancountry.com/2011/02/critical-mass-carnage.html
Holy crap 🙁
That's horrible. I'm properly shocked at that.
Reading the link, I wonder if they've caught him yet? Coward.
thats shocking, they know how he is, and he's in hiding, what a disgusting thing to do.
It appears that some parts of the media are calling it an accident. I would call it many things, but it is most certainly not that.
😯
Jesus H Christ. He should be left in a room with those guys for half hour. The bastard.
Let us hope a group of cyclists find the driver, and initiate him with a good quality bike lock.
Absolutely no excuse for that
very scary 😥
that is beyond belief..
I watched it with the sound down.. I can't bring myself to watch it again to hear the audio..
I can't even bring myself to make an inappropriate joke..
My god. Please somebody tell me that's a fake. I literally can't believe that someone would do that. 😐
" Well hello Mr Golf driver ,Meet my friend Mr Ton and his Bombers.- feel free to help yourself to some fist pie"
What a horrible thing to do . Prison will be too good for him.
Kinda shocked actually. Drink or Drugs involved I reckon.
Driver should be strung up.
At first I thought it was fake, but the whole after bit makes it look like its real. Thats pretty mental.
That is horrific!! Why would someone do such a thing!!
WTF?
My goodness I hope that's a pr stunt of some kind using cgi to make a statement about road safety as that's horrific
That's horrific, and terrifying. Hope they catch the driver and do him for attempted murder. But, not to justify or make light of what he did, but I've always felt that Critical mass was quite antagonistic and not really in cyclists best interests. Something like this was probably on the cards.
'kin 'ell ! can't believe what I've just seen.
Pure evil.
According to this, no one was killed.
A local news site says 'police have identified the driver and are waiting for him to turn himself in voluntarily (apparently as of yesterday he is not at his home address).'
Speedy recoveries to all those injured.
http://www.bikejuju.com/2011/brazil-critical-mass-attack-dozens-of-cyclists-mowed-down-by-motorist/
Properly shocking. That's got to be a charge of attempted murder hasn't it?
I do hope all the victims make a full recovery and feel able to ride again. That could put you off for life.
We need to get this going viral so people can understand what the 'anti-cycling' attitude can lead to at its most extreme
I read the report & decided I didnt want to watch the film - it sounded horrific. I hope those injured fully recover & the culprit is force fed his own gonads.
I read the report & decided I didnt want to watch the film - it sounded horrific. I hope those injured fully recover & the culprit is force fed his own gonads.
I could only really watch it after I read that no-one had been killed.
That's got to be a charge of attempted murder hasn't it?
About 20 counts of I would have thought. Alas[url= http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/08/wealthy-fund-manager-avoids-felony-charges-running-cyclist/ ] nothing is guaranteed these days.[/url]
Scary stuff.
That's horrendous. 😯
Mind, on the bike or not, you're always (very slightly) vulnerable to some insane **** deciding to have a crack at killing you becaue he's annoyed, high or whatever.
Appalling.
shocking
what do you do with people that ll do things like that?
not sure if it applies in Brazil
Ive been told on pretty good authority in the UK a car cant be classed as a murder weapon... manslaughter is as far as it goes
which is crazy in my opinion
Reet.
It happened Friday and not Saturday. The guy's lawyer has contacted police and is going to present him on Monday.
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I'm not going to watch that.
Please forward that video to Jerremy Clarkson, as this is the sort of thing he suggests.
'kin el! Hope he gets chain-whipped while being anally raped by a Mountain Morph.
Mind, on the bike or not, you're always (very slightly) vulnerable to some insane **** deciding to have a crack at killing you becaue he's annoyed, high or whatever.
As in: [url= http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23744624-tv-chef-james-martin-sorry-for-terrorising-cyclists.do ]James Martin's love of cyclists ...[/url]
Genuinely appalled at that. 😕
Properly nasty little tosser doing that. It's twenty counts of attempted murder, pure and simple. He should be locked up for the rest of his life. It'll never happen though.
that is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
holy shizzle.
hope the hang the ****er (it's be a careless driving charge over here though!!)
that is horrible. HORRIBLE!
Unfortunately there is every likelihood that he will get away with it scot free judging by the comments in the reports, no life sentence in Brazil for any crime etc, also a story of a drunk driver killing a whole family and he only served one day in prison, horrific incident.
from road.cc
[i]One cyclist who was on the ride Camilo Colling, told the Brazilian website Terra Brasil that he spoke to the driver just before the incident, asking him to be patient and stop behaving aggressively towards the riders in his path and warning him that there were children and older people taking part in the ride ahead. The driver allegedly replied "Yes but I'm in a hurry" before ploughing his car in to the group of cyclists in front of him.[/i]
Awful.
But might is right in Brazil. Any sociopath can get a car, do something horrendous, and by the sounds of it, get away scot free.
I wouldn't do a Critical Mass thing, and certainly not in Brazil, the likelihood of an angry driver shooting you or doing something like this is too high. Don't want to say that the Critical Mass things are right or wrong, or that people shouldn't do them, but IMHO they are not conducive to whatever end they are supposed to be for.
that is terrible.
bastards like that deserve to die at the wheel of their vehicle in a horrific crass.
imho that is.
IMHO they are not conducive to whatever end they are supposed to be for.
WTF?????
How can you say that when, buy your own admission, you don't know what the point is?
Sh1t the bed - that is absolutely sickening - very lucky that nobody was killed. Hope they send him down for a long, long time.
it wouldn't surprise me if something similar happened over here (it already has in USA/Australia)
a car is a very effective weapon for killing people especially when you take into account you can often get away with just points, a 1 year ban and a small fine.
why use a gun when the justice system and the British obsession with the motor car make it so easy.
WTF?????How can you say that when, buy your own admission, you don't know what the point is?
A quick trawl of the net indicates the "point" of critical mass events is far from clear or consistent. From my perspective I would say they do have potential to rile and annoy other city dwellers rather than be conducive to harmonisation and consideration which would seem a worthwhile objective to me. I’ve never been on one mind although I have been on the street as one passed by. As an observer it did feel slightly threatening or at least divisive between cyclists and the rest of us which is weird being a cyclist myself and the thrust being one that is supportive of my way of life. I can imagine to someone who is anti everything it stands for it is not going to persuade them to change their minds, rather agitate further negativity. Obviously does not excuse that sort of reaction though! 😯
100% agree with convert.
FWIW I have always disliked groups of people taking over a road to make a point. It is mildly confrontational, annoying, and IMHO not likely to persuade anyone.
That Brazil one looked peaceful and chilled, but then there were reports of an argument with the driver moments before he went nuts and ploughed through the cyclists.
I am in no way at all condoning or excusing what he did. Attempted mass murder is a horrible thing, watching it is very upsetting and made me very angry.
totally shocking. no point speculating as to the accused's guilt. he's guilty as sin IMO
Self defense? ARE YOU F****** KIDDING ME??!
I wouldn't do a Critical Mass thing, and certainly not in Brazil, the likelihood of an angry driver shooting you or doing something like this is too high.
While I understand where you are coming from, it really is an amazing thing for some Brazilian's to be taking action. Yes it is a violent country, but also corruption is still extremely rife. The reason why the country has hardly any trains, is that the car companies lobbied so much that the Governments of the time did not make any investments in rail infrastructure. When driving, the number of lorries on the roads are just a mare, whereas in the UK much freight is by train.
Also, I read that update article, and the guy is an official of the central bank. If he is well connected, then don't be surprised for his defence of "self defence" to be accepted.
The news is very open about reporting corruption. Last week a 21 year old government official drove his car into a lamp post. He refused a breath test, and the police took him to the police station where he was then released without charge. Anyone else would be prosecuted.
I am involved in work relating to sustainability here, and there are many beautiful projects happening. Obviously I wasn't at the critical mass, but yeah, these guys really do run the risk of violence against them, although maybe the risk is not always as high as you may think it could be in Brazil. I've met many brilliant people over here doing excellent projects.
I reckon if he does get off with "self defence" then he'd better start learning how to do some when he's not behind the wheel of a car. If there is no official justice...
simonralli2 - interesting info, I know that corruption in a lot of Latin American countries is deep, but the point about trains and car companies I didn't know about. It is the same in Mexico, cars are a nightmare. I respect that people have the right to protest, and it is good in a way, but I'm not sure how effective it is when you are up against ingrained corruption.
I'd love to go to Brazil though, just some of the stories make it seem it may be a bit dodgy in places!
aracer - I bet he does get off. I also think it unlikely that any of the cyclists will do him in.
Yeah - I can assure you the Brazilian people I meet are just amazing, especially their hospitality and openness to foreigners. But the violence is still horrendous, and Brazilian people still live with the threat of violence and crime daily. You walk around and all houses are more like prisons, with electric fencing and guards at the doors.
But yes, there are fantastic places too and I was checking out an area for biking this weekend. Brazil is just insanely big, and there is plenty of uncharted territory for biking. The only downside is that I was told you need to bike in groups, as there is a big possibility that you will get mugged and have your bike taken. Taxes here mean that consumer goods are twice as expensive, so an £800 hardtail in the Uk would cost £1500 in Brazil. Given the poverty, it is not surprising that this is a danger in the countryside.
The other thing to take into account is that many Brazilians still are psychologically scarred from years of military dictatorship. I have friends in their mid to late 40s who had friends taken from school and university, never to return. It is therefore still quite a big thing to demonstrate (as opposed to say us taking part in an anti war demo or anti tax avoidance demo), as some people will worry about what it means for their reputations and repercussions, especially as much business is done based on personal relationships, maybe more so than we are used to in the West.
Terrible huh, but as I said, I am doing volunteer work in the area of sustainability, and there some brilliant things happening too which yo don't really see on tv or in the news.
sounds oppressed as hell
I am not too sure oppressed is the right word, but Brazil really is a country of paradoxes for Westerners, as I am finding. However, many undesirable people from the military regime are still actually in power, in parliament or in government, one way or another.
One other thing about city bike riding is that the speed limit is 60 kph, and although that does not sound too fast, when I am in a taxi I can get really stressed, as junctions often do not have a right of way and at that speed there just does not seem to be any margin for errors at all. You dont see too many cyclists, really often because of the heat (it's been 35 here in the day time), but there are many many motorbike accidents, although some of the riding leaves a lot to be desired in terms of weaving in and out of traffic.
What Brazil needs, especially somewhere like Sao Paulo, is better public transportation to begin with, but that is a long way off. They are really struggling to cope with rain right now, and flooding seems to be occurring ever other week.
OMG - I feel sick!
The worldwide media have reported this, after a period yesterday where I wondered if it would be ignored.
Even the Daily Wail has an [url= http://www.****/news/article-1361769/Sickening-moment-car-ploughs-cyclists-Brazils-Critical-Mass-event-protest-motorists.html ]article[/url], with words and everything.
The Guardian have blogged this today:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2011/mar/01/diver-brazilian-critical-mass-ride
There will be another protest ride tonight, maybe to ensure that justice is done to the driver?
Dunno how that bloke in the orange saw him coming!
As much as I dislike CM, for reasons puts very well above, that driver has such a disrespect for human life to absolutely beggar belief. One good thing is that this has more or less gone viral, I would hope it is impossible for the Brazilian judiciary to brush this under the carpet.
OMG. Suddenly, I'm in favour of capital punishment.
Well as a qualified Lawyer i can say that the correct term for his claim of Self Defence is Utter Bollocks. I saw this yesterday and assumed every one had the wrong end of the stick and this was a tragic accident resulting from a brake or accelerator defect. Now by coming out with this story he hopefully has convinced the world beyond doubt that he is a culpable sociopath and belongs either in a secure hospital or prison.
Dunno how that bloke in the orange saw him coming!
I'm assuming he heard it.
Well as a qualified Lawyer i can say that the correct term for his claim of Self Defence is Utter Bollocks.
The trouble is, it seems quite a lot of judgements in Brazil are Utter Bollocks.
About 10 years ago I was on a critical mass in london. It was in the days when there was no police escort. Towards the end of the ride it was thinning out a bit. We crossed a bridge and turned onto a road. A 4x4 just drove past with a bike and rider under the front of the car. The rider managed to escape from under the car. The driver jumped out holding a steering lock in his hand. No-one knew what he would do next. He threatened us and then got back in the car and drove off. Soon after a police car came flying past. I think he got caught but no idea what his punishment was.
Here is an update on the situation
This link is to a newspaper article which I put through Babel fish. The driver now seems to be jailed, i.e. is awaiting some form of trial.
Also, this article has a 10 minute video of the incident and event too.
the guy has been caught, he has made Brazil look bad all over the world, im sure the police would have given him the kick in of a life time!
I am at work now so don't have time to post, but this story continues to be covered in the newspapers quite well. I was reading about the update again in today's newspaper. I have not seen anything more on tv, but at least the newspapers are continuing with it.
Mr smith - "why use a gun when the justice system and the British obsession with the motor car make it so easy"
Absolutely.