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this is going to be interesting...
i reckon do nothing, just get your daughter into some martial arts classes. then next time it happens, she can whip out the kung fu moves, and snap the chav's arm

i will get flamed for this..........but...
find out where the girl lives, go to the house, get the father out of the house and threaten that you will beat him severly if his son/daughter goes near your child.

it works.

i don't think they fear anything because they believe that a) they are above the law, and b) the law is on their sides.

I know it sounds screwed, but i honestly think they believe that the law will protect them and also not punish them.

Solution, wait till they are riding a nicked bike on the pavement and have a tragic accident whilst driving along.

Set their houses on fire whilst they sleep....

Or, for further inspiration watch this

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/lawabidingcitizen/

"outside the system"? I wouldn't recommend doing anything.
Unfortunately you haven't got any choice but to leave it to the authorities no matter how cr4p they are :(.

i will get flamed for this..........but...
find out where the girl lives, go to the house, get the father out of the house and [s]threaten that you will[/s] beat him severly [s]if his son/daughter goes near your child[/s].

it works.

Your Daughter was beaten for no reason and then threatened again?

I would ask the Police to get off their butts

a friend who is a solicitor has given us all the sound legal advice. my daughter thinks by not pressing it, it will go away, but it won't. i intend to make it go away. she can stick up for herself 1 on 1 and that was the problem. no one had ever stood up to scrotum and she defended someone weaker against them. i can show her some useful things to do, but against half a dozen feral chavs???

I thought this thread was going to be about something entirely different........

But on a serious note - chavscum kids usually have chavscum nutter fathers, so going round might not be a good idea and could open up a whole load of crap for your whole family. The authorities are the only way I'm afraid - unless you know some serious nutters.

Agree with ton. Protecting family comes first, second and third. Do unto them before they do unto you! If the kids are underage you can't realistically touch them but that doesn't stop you how shall we say having a quiet word with the father when no ones looking. 😉

Of course you are right ton - show the daughter that violence begets violence and show her how nice it is to visit her dad in prison.

you say some ridiculous thing but that is criminally stupid. Still - nothing new for you is it.

teej, how can a man with no children, who can not feel like a man protecting his children feels, give any advice on such things.
go away you foolish man.

Well just be careful you don't get thrown in Prison for taking revenge etc.

I guess if my Dad etc was attacked I'd be livid too but criminal record will prevent you getting jobs.

Speak to the Police again for advice or the local Booby can give good advice etc.

If you think its life threatening then protect your Daughter at all risks.
Really crap to read this happening in this day and age.

i'm too smart to beat anyone up. doesn't do me or my kids any good if i'm done for assualt

however there are other ways

just wondering what advice is out there

Which county do you live in?

england

Mmmm....p r i s o n n...

Seriously, be careful. I know where Ton's coming from but we've got lads inside for 'protecting' their families.

now that the police are involved your kinda stuck with the system I'm afraid, push and keep pushing the police, social services, etc... until they sort it. if anything were to happen to them then you'll be straigh in the frame as you have cause.

If you want to go all law abiding citizen on them you have to do that first and make it count.

to be honest fella's, i said go and threaten him. i never said beat him up.
and a lot of blokes dont like trouble being brought to the door.
i reckon his daughter would be in for a right good telling off if trouble was brought back to her home.

Go back to the police and make a complaint of harrassment against the girl if any of the abuse and/or bullying has happened on more than one occassion. Unfortunately with juveniles the hands of the police are often tied as regards charging/court/cautions as the Home Office is very prescriptive. I certainly wouldn't recommend going round his house or you might be the one that ends up in the cells, as hard as it is to resist. I'd also let the school/college (assuming they are at the same school/college) know what is happening. Also make sure you speak to your local neighbourhood officer who is likely to take more of an interest than a response officer. If you are unhappy with the police response then write a letter to the Superintendent at your local station.

Ton - we know you are a thug. I know you are to stupid to know any other way or to listen.

You have convictions for violence already do you not? You do not protect children by beating up their enemies father - that is far more likely to end in an escalation of violence

But we know thickos like you only know how to resort to violence.

As for my experience - I have been in the very position of the child here when I was a child - and martial arts classes and a mature attitude got me thru it without anyone - me or anyone else being hurt

Report everything that happens to the police, every time they threaten her, everytime they go near her. Report the lot. Find out the officer responsible last time and keep contacting them. Make them know you're not happy and won't let it lie.

i will get flamed for this..........but...
find out where the girl lives, go to the house, get the father out of the house and threaten that you will beat him severly if his son/daughter goes near your child.

it works.

It might work, or you might find that her father is a bit bigger and stronger than you, or more likely, all his family live in that street and come out to see what the fuss is, and you end up being the one severly beaten.

Or worse, they wait till your gone, and the daugter takes it out on your daughter.

Or, as said you get locked up for it.

Like I say, it might work.

Speak to the girls parents. You don't have to be threatening, they genuinely might not know that their sweetneess and light is involved in this sort of stuff. Even if they do, they won't like the fact that you've brought it to their front door and they may just do something about it.

I'm with ton on this

teej, like i said, a man with no kids should not be commenting on such matters.

obviously, this girl and her family are like me and only understand violence.
hit em fast, hard and many times.

like mao siad.........change must come through the power of a gun...... 😉

Give the scrots bikes to ride, then you knock them off said bikes whilst you're in your car. That method seems to be accepted in the courts as fair game.

[i]i reckon do nothing, just get your daughter into some martial arts classes. then next time it happens, she can whip out the kung fu moves, and snap the chav's arm[/i]

That's interesting as well, on my wing there's a lad who's doing time for just that. He was on business in Lincolnshire & he & his employee were in a pub in Spalding when 3 lads started being arsey, 'what you doin in OUR pub' type of stuff, anyway things came to a head & this guy's had enough. Well he's only a black belt in twai kan origami & lays them all flat. So he gets 3 years.
It's zoo out there.

her parents know, the girl has been excluded from school for 3 days, and her mum has been encouraging further escalation. i've been told they wear asbos like a badge of honour. i suspect reason and logic won't get us anywhere. will keep plod informed at every turn. scrote is back at school tomorrow. will see what kicks off.

Teej, Ton is right, you just do not understand the visceral & violent love that children can bring out in a father.
But rather than threaten violence (initially) your daughter ought to keep a log & inform the ploice & school of all incidents, so they may get around to visiting the parents. I'd recommend your girl keeps up with the martial arts, though.

Martial arts is not a short term solution. It takes a lot of time to master it.

find yourself a nutter, part with a few quid and voila! violence does pay and can be bought quite cheaply too i speak from personal experience, don't be the victim!.

ton

I'm a dad

I'm nigh on your size.

You're a thug and violence is no way to parent. If you threaten, you are what you claim to despise.

tootall, but you are built like a limp chip..........

but you are right...........i am a proper thug... 😆

TandemJeremy - Member

Ton - we know you are a thug. I know you are to stupid to know any other way or to listen.

You have convictions for violence already do you not? You do not protect children by beating up their enemies father - that is far more likely to end in an escalation of violence

But we know thickos like you only know how to resort to violence.

As for my experience - I have been in the very position of the child here when I was a child - and martial arts classes and a mature attitude got me thru it without anyone - me or anyone else being hurt

TJ this is a bit much isnt it? If you dont have kids you wouldn't have a clue how you would feel In fact you not having kids explains an awful lot about your behaviour on here.

hit squad to follow her every move, if anything happens, "BOOM, Headshot"
but in all seriousness, explain to the police that she has obviosly been seriously assaulted and that a caution is hardly a worth punishment

As the father of 2 kids i have to say i would rather have tj as a father than Ton with that attitude. This isnt the jungle, its civilised society. Getting yourself locked up is not going to do your daughter any good whatsoever other than giving yourself a brief moment of satisfaction.

My advice is make it your living mission to bombard the police with info and reports of ANY antisocial behaviour regardless of how minute. Report everything and take everything to the highest level possible. Even if they start telling you to go away. It seems these days that those that know the system or shout loudest get most so make use of the system.

The school, the police. If her friends are getting hassled then get them to do the same. Have the police so annoyed that they are visitng the other girl on a daily basis. If they are as ferral as you say then maybe the family wont want so much attention and will have a word with their kid.

The days of having a quiet word have gone. Too much to lose

and teej.....put the tag back...i dont mind... 8)

We had some kids persistently knocking on the door a year or two ago. Not knocking and running off, knocking then being leary when we answered it.

So I went out with my caamera + big flash behind my back, whipped it out, took their pictures, then as they stood there calling me a pedophile and swearing at me, phoned the police. The kids ran off but the police came along recognised them then went to see their parents.

Seemed to work.

In our area, where the kids are more annoying than truly dangerous (I think) they seem to have a lot of bravado when they think they are anonymous, but not much after.

Saw, one of these kids with his mate after school a while later whilst I was with my own little kids. Stopped him in the street and asked him why he'd done it, what he thought it said about him, whether he thought it was OK to knock our door while I was putting our kids to bed etc. Embarrassed the little ****er in front of his mate and passing members of the public - ha ha.

Toys - yes its a bit OTT but IMO ton is a very unpleasant thug - admitted to convictions for violence in the past, He behaves like a bully on here and needs to be told his attitudes are unacceptable.

As for not having kids so I don't know - I was bullied as a child - I do know what that feels like.

I understand the rage of the parent - but I will never accept that violence or the threat of violence is the best way to deal with anything. ( except [u]immediate[/u] danger to you or your family of course)

Edit - thank you littlest hobo

im still pretty young and would like to think im pritty clued up on this kind of thing. Firstly your daughters Boyfriend needs to man the hell up and support his girl. if you think diplomacy is going to get you any were when your young and on the streets then your very much wrong. im with ton im afraid in this situation the best defence is attack but do it right

Well I don't know about his past, threatening someone by email (allegedly) or on the net is laughable not thuggish. But I think this

except immediate danger to you or your family of course

teej, like i said a man with no children would not understand.... 😆

As an aside this made me lol.

tootall, but you are built like a limp chip..........

As did this:

Speak to the Police again for advice or the local [b]Booby[/b] can give good advice etc.

Sorry, i don't actually have anything constructive to say.

+1 for Ton. tj try a moustache 😯

i'd agree with Ton if I was hard as nails and the other dad was like too many people I've encountered.

Like the last series of Lost and its two time lines, I can see this thread merging with the 'Talkemeda Blocked' thread. 😆

Well you want a social worker to pop round to the childs house and have a talk with this thug,promise them a trip to alton towers, get the social worker to tick lots of boxes on a pre printed sheet, then to toddle off back to their lovely middle class estate,happily thinking theyve done their job,and earned their inflated wage.

While your daughter still gets threatened etc,but never mind all the paper work is ok,and if anything serious happens it will suddenly disapear in the office shredder.

Best not to use physical violence,though.

Toys - no its not immediate danger - the incident is past and ton suggests going round to the other childs house and threatening the parents.

Ton - I do understand - you are an unpleasant thug who has no place in a civilised society.

When i had a run in with a few local chavs i went out and bought a little digital recorder (about £40) so that the next time they came back i could record the encounter and either play it to their parents or the police.

They never came back fortunately but at least it'll give the police first hand evidence of the exact abuse your daughter receives?

I also have a family from hell that the local council decided to move into the house across the road and they seem like the people you are dealing with. Unfortunately, much as i despise them and find their behaviour unacceptable i have learnt that there is simply nothing i can do. I have everything to lose and they have nothing - a trip to prison won't change their lives at all - it'll devastate yours....

Just like to ask what happens when the OP turns up at the house and has a quiet word with the other parent? Do you think

a) He has a quiet word and it all goes away 🙂
b) He has a quiet word and the other parent laughs in his face. Bullying gets worse
c) He has a quiet word and it escalates into a punch up. OP gets lifted for assault. Bullying gets worse
d) He has a quiet word and beats the crap out of the other parent. OP gets done for GBH and bullying gets worse
e) He has a quiet word and OP gets the crap beaten out of him. Bullying gets worse

Its a long time since you could safely go and have a quiet word with someone and not have consequences. I remember kids fathers turning up at my door due to us fighting. My dad would listen, get my side of the story, then depending on the circumstances mallet me. I have also seen my dad with guys held up by the throat for swearing in front of his kids (Helps being the spit of Jonny Wiesmuller). These days he would have a criminal record for that.

We are not gansters and we want whats best for our families. Antagonising ferrel families is not in your best interests

daughters BF is done plenty of MTFU'ing. he's mixed race, been spat at, abused and also assualted, he's been sound throughout.

as for the tj v's ton spat, i never found that having kids made me a thug, and i have never found the need to use violence, despite having been in many threatening situations. as i've said before, i'm too smart to beat someone up. i'll find better ways.

grass em up for benifit fraud?

I had a problem with thhe chav kids out the back to me, climbing over 12 foot wall to get ball (as well as what else they could see) general noise and disruption. Bollocked the kids when I caught them trying to climb over the wall "we're only getting the ball whats your problem?" and had a word with the parents-made the mistake of doing it while they're chav mates here there..no response just stupid grins and shrugs of shoulders.
Collared the dad by himself and told him again it had to stop, cos he had no back up or any one to impress he agreed and I've had no problems since, its even got to a "alright mate" greeting
Sometimes you need to take direct action. if the family concerned hate the police and have no respect for them or social services etc. they might just take notice of someone face upto them in there own way/language

Unfortunately chav scum like these feel they have little to lose whatever they do, hence their threshold for what they will do to manifest their twisted mindset is far beyond what a normal person would do. And the law in recent years has done little to prevent this. Not sure what I'd advice ... put it this way, even if you can handle yourself, if you go round there and sort the father out, he's likely to get some mates together and come looking for you ... and so it spirals. These people are scum and often their bullies, but they fear little in terms of retribution so will do what they want.

The only thing I would say is see if you can find this kind of topic on other forums and check out their advice ...

Whatever you do, I hope you get it sorted without any trouble.

idave, i too have never had reason to beat up another parent.
i have been to another kids house when my son was bullied.
the bullying stopped the same day. no violence occured.

just a quick heads up for all who think this is wrong.
these people love people like you, they prey on you, cos they know you will do nothing to stop them. they like to make your lifea misery, it makes them feel powerfull.
they will carry on doing what they do.....till you stop them........ 8)

Hmm has the incident passed?

serious threats have been issued since

Get off your high horse, in spite of your sad tale of childhood bullying, you really have no experience or knowledge of this.

Ton - you are so wrong - I kowtow to no one - especially thugs like you. However threatening violence as you advocate is always wrong - usually counterproductive and will end up with you in trouble.

Just because you do not understand civilized behaviour does not mean it is wrong to behave in a civilised manner.

so you continue with your culture of violence and continue to perpetuate that culture. Some of us have grown up beyond being cavemen.

Hypothetically speaking you could capture said scrote take to secluded spot, have hessian sack doused in petrol in boot of car, place said sack over scrote's head, calmly tell them this bollocks needs to stop if not they know what will happen. There are other torture techniques that work, so I believe but most require assistance. Good luck!

ton, i will stop it, i won't rest until i stop it, but i know all to well that a fight isn't going to do it. i can make every minute of their day miserable if i have to. without them knowing where its coming from. i'm hoping for some inspiration.

teej, like i said.....no kids...no idea........ 😆

and teej..............

never ever.......... 😆

There isn't enough intelligence to determine the best course of action. What level of voilence are we talking about, in all situations the responce must be relative to the threat.

That said, what fu king civilized society exactly do we live in? rape, murder, Pedophilia, voilent crime? the list is endless. Civilized is a word that people who can afford to segregate themselves with means use.

You want to take a log of the crimes or harrasment fair enough.

At the end of the day, the crime throughout our country is rising very quickly and sooner or later it will touch all of our lives.

Comes down to philosophy though doesn't it? most people now adays believe causing others distress is an accomplishment. All that varies is the degree and what is seen as acceptible.

Tandemjeremy you continually provoke people on this web site, you psychologically attack them, then go on about not being violent or using voilence?

What do you think would happen if you provoked them in the street and called them names? then went on about violence being wrong?

ton is partially right. If you daughter is attacked or threatened again you of course report this to the Police.

However you could always go round to have a polite word with her parents. TBH, the parents may be powerless themselves (as they are ****less).

However the parents may make a silly move and make a comment- thats where you give them stern advice and mention you'll be expecting them to sort their daughter out.

I don't see why not. If someone kicked a ball and broke a window on your house etc you'd be round to see the parents wouldnt you?

Or in nu-Labours Britain have the old fashion-ways become bereft with fear of another human?

I'm no big fella myself but I wouldnt let anyone in my family be bullied without me intervening and speaking to the parents.

Ton - no matter how often you repeat yourself it remains clear that you are a thug and a bully.

all the ego stroking you have to have and all the attempts to prove yourself better than me - the sign of an nasty little insecure man. You are beneath contempt.

Ton - I didn't realise you were a evil violent thug. Did that make me safer or more vulnerable on those night rides though Middleton?

(I may not be taking this as seriously as I obviously should)

TandemJeremy

say it to ton's face

You go on about non voilence and keep provoking people?

Not sure threatening scumbags father (if they have one) will work, had some problems on hour estate because we have a public footpath that cuts through our estate from another estate that has an element of chav scum who decided to target a number of us, one of my neighbours also was a police inspector & it all kicked off one evening and mr policeman got decked & scumbag got away with it, however I had an altercation with a couple of the and knocked one off his BMX by grabbing his handlebars, then gave him & his mate a slap, The Police inspectors wife saw this happen and called her husband so we pre-empted there response and called the police and went around to the chavs house with the cops and turned the tables, one of them got an asbo, the trouble has pretty well disappeared since then. Although I had to remind one of them last year as he is older and bigger and fancied his chances so dragged him down the footpath to give him the opportunity to have a go, he declined.

Sorry can't offer no legal solution other than keep harassing the police.

I think Ton and TandemJeremy should have their own sticky at the top of the forum.

igm - Member
Ton - I didn't realise you were a evil violent thug. Did that make me safer or more vulnerable on those night rides though Middleton?

neither did the hundred or so forum members i have ridden with over the years....... 😉

I'm lucky 'in a way'. I look more common than some of the chav's round here and drive a worse car 😆 ..errr

kaesae:
TandemJeremy

say it to ton's face

You go on about non voilence and keep provoking people?

Ton, TJ and now Kaesae?

**** me this is going to be epic!

TJ - Ton is right - you are wrong - end of! Anyone threatens my little girl and i would kill them, i am NOT big but get ****in mad!

ton

ignore I'm bitter and I call you names but we can't fight if we meet.

Ton and tandem jeremy should have a tongue sticky out compo with photo's

Ton -

Have you got convictions for violence? You claimed you had and had done time for it.

You have claimed to have threatened people and to have used violence to get your way.

You need to have your ego stroked all the time - classic sign of the immature inadequate bully.

You certainly act as a bully on here and you are too thick to have any understanding of why I react to you like this

Oh for crying out loud. Its the internet TJ, we all act differently online to real life.

To all the keyboard warriors advocating violence - would you have the balls to do it? Ton, I know the area you grew up in, and probably quite a few of the people you hung around with, so you dont need to answer. The bottom line is this, only idave knows the full details, and if he's against using violence, then I think we should respect him for that.

TandemJeremy

I thought you where doing it cos ton couldn't get his hands on your scrawny neck?

Quite right though, provoke the violent bully and call him all the names you can type out.

What kind of martial arts is it you do, that doesn't involve voilence?

kaesae - Member

TandemJeremy

say it to ton's face

You go on about non voilence and keep provoking people?

kasae +1

hora - Member

Oh for crying out loud. Its the internet TJ, we all act differently online to real life.

Hora +1

When my son was punched in the mouth at random (mistaken identity it seems) I took him to hospital and he had 11 stitches in his lips. Response police were in A&E on another matter and got involved with us. Subsequently someone came round to take photos of his face (after the stitches were removed and the swelling had subsided). They refused to take the photos I had taken in A&E.

The other lad had a lecture by the local sergeant as to how it was not ok to go round hitting people in the mouth.

When I spoke to the local station the copper said "Well he only had a fat lip"

"He had 11 stitches in his lips" I said.

"Oh, if we'd known that the outcome might have been different"

Yeah, let the authorities sort it out.

Speak softly and carry a big stick.