[Closed] Here is my new Ragly mmmbop finally finished

so tempted to revert back to a ht from full sus

looks proper smart. i do love that colour frame looks the nuts.

i'd have run the fork lockout inboard of thr shifters and brake, but that's just a personal preference

Looks pretty sweet - hose too long on your front brake though imo. What brakes are they?

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See if you can set it up with the pushloc like I have (if you can see). Its much easier to use, and keeps it out of the way.

That looks terrific, proper bars instead of spacers looks good too.I'd probably lose the fork lockout though.Will be interested on your thoughts when you've used it a bit.

Great bikes .. unbeatable for the money also.
Heres a pic of mine .. hope you dont mind me taking the oppurtunity to show mine off also..

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Brakes are Hayes Stoker Trail in white haven't tightened the cable in yet with a cable tie so does look long, another little job to do cheers

mooman you're not wrong mate I have a 2.5K Specialized stumpjumper and i prefer the Ragley, awesome!!!

RealMan never thought of it that way looks neat, just getting my allen keys out now!

Geometry loks alot a MkII P7

Do you find the mech bangs on the chainstay if you bunnyhop? Running mine with an xtr short cage mech and it makes a right racket.

If I can work out how to post pics I'll get one of mine up. (not very arty like yours though!)

Blue as well 🙂

bike is very quiet perhaps its the blackspire chainguide taking up the slack worth a try but i use an X9 rear mech also

GeeWavetree this rides just as good if not better than my full suss and rides like on rails mate you must try one or borrow one for a try

To my eye there is something looks not quite right with those bikes And mmmBop has to be just about the dodgiest name ever for a bike.

My opinion doesnt really count though as it's your bike. Hope you like it.

Realman thats rude. Surely you slyly posted hardtail royalty on this thread to make the OP feel jealous? 😈

Oooo a blue mmmbop thread, must join in 🙂
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They are indeed fantastic, both to ride and for value, although mine has encouraged me to push a bit harder and in the process has killed a front wheel, a rear mech and some ribs.
Off out again tomorrow to see what falls off me this time

looks really really good - much better than the blue pig IMO.

I like the SLX double very much (I have one)

BTW. It's the oversized headtube that makes them look so different IMO

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Couldn't resist either. Shot minutes before I came up short on a double and did my collar bone. Note how it glows magically... 😯

Like look of it better without all the stickers, sorry Brant.

Like look of it better without all the stickers, sorry Brant.

That's ok. If we wanted everyone to have the stickers on, we'd put the stickers on.

The reason we left them off, was so people could leave them off 🙂

This is soooooo tempting! Wish i had not just got a new full sus frame!! any demo ones about? 18bikes?

It's amazing looking.. just gone from ht to but got some wheels and finishing kit waiting so might look into that frame. Dearly loved my baby blue 456 but it got pinched... once the summer ends it would be nice to have a nice ht for the wetter months.

That chainset is perhaps the ugliest thing I've seen in a long time. Congratulations

Ooh looking good.

Here's mine posted before but don't like to miss an opportunity 😀

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Lots of mmmBops here - http://myragley.com/tag/mmmbop

If yours isn't email us it, and we'll stick it up.

Ta.

supinerider like the adjustable seatpost. how do you find it?

Looks nice and functional. not so keen on the size of the headtube (compared to the sneeky pic of the black santa cruz further up the thread)

good old 1 1/8" non internal just looks right.It doesnt leave me asking whats wrong with a bike at a glance. int headtubes of today arent blending in as well.but if its functional.. then so be it.

I just got back from a weeks riding in the forests of southern Germany on my MMMbop and had a great time Roots / Rocky / muddy loved every minute riding it , Coped with everything this fat Trout could do

What size are you guys riding and how tall are you?

I tested the Ragley Ti the other day (thanks Brant; Nirvana were very helpful) and thought it was a fabulous machine; not perfect but still quite remarkable. The key issue for me was that the 18" felt too tall in the seat tube, althought the toptube length was more or less spot on. I feel I could happily ride the 16" though as it would cure the ST problem without being too short in the TT.

What are other people's thoughts?

Mine is a 16" and I'm 5'10" fits perfect when thrashing through the singletrack and also when climbing.

Realman thats rude. Surely you slyly posted hardtail royalty on this thread to make the OP feel jealous?

Other way round, every time I see those mmmbops I just think "Argh I bought the wrong frame.."

Same with evil sovereigns..

@fudge9202 The seatpost is great. Can't complain. Gets a lot of use and is very smooth. Only had it a few months so it's a bit early to tell if it'll last but a few others I ride with have been using the 2010 model since they came out and haven't had any problems.

gocycle.de have them for a fair bit less than Superstar if you're after one.

I'm also 5'10" riding a 16". It's a good fit.

Geetee1972, I'm 5'10 and ride a 16" Ragley Ti - fits perfectly (and rides brilliantly) 🙂 I too had a go on an 18" Ragley but found it too tall, another option is the Ridgeline LT if your set on Ti, I demoed one of them aswell and it was very good but still a smidge "tall" feeling. The medium comes in at a 17" seat tube IIRC.

He we go - some pics taken specailly today. Hopefully images will work

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I'm just shy of 6" and riding an 18", feels big but in a good way.

Spec-
454 uturn pikes
50mm thomson
RW burgtec bars
Hope Tech x2s with ashima rotors
SLX shifter (absolutely no difference to my xts...)
XTR short cage rear mech
MRP 1x
Stylo cranks with 34t e13 ring
540 spds
pro II 5.1 / ex721 with 2.35 NN / RR 11/34 xt cassette (shared with full susser)
ibeam post & saddle.

Tis around 26-27lb, not bad at all.

Whats with the white bars guys? Is this new etc? I've never really seen white bars before and then over the last week I've noticed a few roadies with them on the Peaks.

White bars, for some it's a fashion thing, I bought em because priceshagger had them for 15quid delivered, I did get a matching stem afterwards though (bay for 19 quid).
Really for 15 quid I wouldn't care if they were pink.

I suspose my response is why not white? I needed to get a new set and whites ones turned up first on the classifieds.

All of my bikes in the past have been black/grey/brown/silver with black bits so I fancied having a brightly coloured bike this time round.

DT78 white bars look cool

what do these frames ride like for normal XC/all day riding? Is the rear end harsh? I quite fancy an alu frame but i'm not sure if this is too hardcore for me or not?

You'll be fine. It is definitely harsher than my steel frame but not bad. Did 36miles gentle offroad in the new forest on sunday, done 3hours round swinley fine as well. Yet to take it somewhere really rocky yet but it's fine over rooty stuff

Its a great frame to blast the trails. Not sure it would be ideal for an all day bike ... prob a bit too short in the top tube for most. But for 2-3hr riding of steep techy stuff ... its just great.

I m 5ft8" and ride the 16". Sometimes it can feel a little cramped if the seat isnt dropped on fast dh sections(im too lazy to keep dropping it)

That's what it looks like, great for a fun fast blast on technical trails but maybe not the best all day bike. Still tempted, they look great. 😀

my new Blue pig is my new best friend.

the 'top-tube' is a bit shorter than Brants other bikes... i have an 18" inbred, but i found the 18" Ragley a bit less 'reachy' - so went for a 20".

(reach and stack - makes sense to me)

i reckon itsa great 'all day bike' - light, climbs well, there's room for a MASSIVE tyre in the back, so they can be as comfy as you want them to be. descends well, cheap and very well made.

it's not perfect, some people will hate the handling - but i reckon it's ace.

(oh and the steeper seat angle on the 20" is a very good idea)

PaulGillespie they are great as both an all day ride and also as a 2-3 hr xc thrasher round your local woods or the trail centres, very comfortable ride as an all day epic bike not in the least harsh through the rough stuff but tracks the terrain aswell as my full suss stumpy fsr. My advice would be to trial one you will not regret it, but be sure to select the right size frame and ensure you get the right travel fork for the frame 😀

i'll jump on the posting bandwagon too......

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is there an unwritten rule that Ragleys must be fitted with SLX cranks?

is there an unwritten rule that Ragleys must be fitted with SLX cranks?

Lol.....i'm looking to buy some for my new mmmbop 😉

Nice looking bike Peterfile and i must commend you on the photography!

Mine has stylos 🙂

I think it should be the law to have white accent colour though...

SLX Doubles just look the nuts!!! oh and they work well also!!

DT78 - Member

I think it should be the law to have white accent colour

white forks and seatpost here...

(on an orange skwosh frame - would green pedals be too much?)

I must say that I really like the look of the Mmmbops & Blue Pigs. I have a couple of 18" On One Inbreds (one SS, one geared) and they both fit really well despite being set up differently. I am just over 5'9" but have a long upper body and longish arms. So, would I need an 18" or a 16" frame? Just wondering really, I know a test ride'd sort that quandry out.

weird.

i'm 6'2" - and have an 18" inbred - but found a 20" Ragley was a more 'familiar' size.

(both around 430mm Reach - see 'reach and stack' - the 18" Ragley was about 410mm reach - and just felt a bit cramped)

Brant will be along in a moment to laugh at me, but the long inbred toptube seems a conscious decision to encourage us to use long seatposts - so it's nice and flexy and comfy when you're sitting down.

and it seems that the ragleys are designed with a shorter top-tube / reach so that you need a bigger frame, so it's more flexy and comfy when you're standing up.

(bigger frame = longer tubes = more flex)

as with most things i say, it's might be rubbish, but it makes sense to me...

MrSparkle I'm 5'10" and a similiar build to you i was advised by the bike chain to get a 16" and a layback seatpost and it is just perfect not at all a cramped cockpit and superb reactions on the twisty stuff aswell as a great seating position for climbing. Perhaps you should give them a ring they were ever so helpful with me.

Think I said above I went for an 18" and I'm nearly 6' average build. I've been sizing down bikes for ages and fancied trying the 'recommended' size. It feels big, but in a really good way.

Whats really odd is that on most frames I can easily get the seatpost to the right height and really spot when it's not at the perfect height for pedalling with back/knee/thigh pain. With the mmmbop it is not clear what the perfect height is for me, keep ending up with the saddle far too high for proper riding. Odd.

Also has a pretty high BB. Other observation is for a 'big' bike it feels remarkably balanced and easy to jump (I'm not talking huge stuff here under 3-4 foot)

Rode my XC hardtail last night after 2 weeks on the Ragley. It felt very very weird!

So long as you're happy, that's the main thing.

The top tube length and seat angle are sized for steep climbing, rather than flatback hammering, so you're sat a little more forward, but in the saddle, rather than having to shuffle forward on the nose. Reach and stack is a good indicator, but personal preference may vary.

Yep, happy, it definitely is good at climbing steep stuff too. It is much easier to clean climbs that I normally have the front of the XC bike popping up. There is only so long you can sit on the nose of the saddle!

It does encourage me to take risks, and given I have a wedding coming up the missus is suggesting I don't ride it until after the big day 🙂

I'm 5'9" and ride a 16" with a 50mm stem and inline seatpost.

The size feels perfect to be honest, and I tried quite a few different bikes before settling on the mmmbop. I always seemed to be inbetween sizes.

For general trail use I have lots of seatpost out and a lovely stretch thanks to the short stem. For more hardcore activities (i do a lot of drops), I can get the seatpost all the way down (it's cut) and it gives me plenty of room for error.

The only draw back is that the 16" frame with a 50mm stem can make the front end a bit light and twitchy on steep climbs. But i'm used to it now and just shift my weight a bit further forward than I normally would. Anyway, it's the first bike I've owned in a long time that actually climbs!!!!!

peterfile found the same on my climbs so i changed to a 70mm thomson now perfect

The only draw back is that the 16" frame with a 50mm stem can make the front end a bit light and twitchy on steep climbs.

I found the opposite actually. It canes it up stuff i previously couldn't get up on other bikes... experience variation is an odd thing for sure.

don't get me wrong, the stiff rear end and geo turn it into a mountain goat on crack when it comes to actually putting the power down an driving the thing uphill - it's just that it sometimes feels like i'm on a unicycle on really steep slopes! That said, it's probably more my poor climbing technique than anything else, since i'm gradually finding the sweet spot between keeping traction on the rear and weighting the front.

The other issue for me might be because i've got some Fox 36's up front. I have a massively slack head angle.

peterfile borrow a 70mm or even a 60mm stem and give it a go it made a sigificant difference to the front end handling on the climbs for me. then if it does not work you have not lost any cash as the stem was borrowed.

i will do, thanks fudge 🙂

Well i've just joined the mmmbop club thanks to The Bike Chain in Edinburgh, cheaper than CRC too and great service, thanks guys!