[Closed] more moeny than skills.....

lol - they are an embarasment

The bit from about 2:30 to 3:00 looks pretty good. They're German, maybe they were pissed?

Perhaps they can spell better than you two?

Plenty of pretty good riding on there, and they're clearly not embarrassed about their spills, otherwise they probably wouldn't have posted the video; so what's with the scorn? Where do you run your MTB Guides from, Alpin? I need to make sure that nobody I know ever makes use of your services, lest they spend their time being ridiculed or sneered at behind their back.

Nice trails, cant help think they have too much bike though still at least they look like they are having fun!

[b]Perhaps they can spell better than you two? [/b]

irony in action!

Some good riding there and made a few mistakes and as Three_Fish says were happy to show. Way better video than a certain 'look at me I can endo around corners' video I recall.

i couldn't ride it any better....i enjoyed the Hen's contribution though

Cracking clip - few blokes having fun on bikes, cracking trails, nice backing track - what's not to like.

Thanks for posting - inspired . . . I'm off out 😛

Oh. and I have more money than skills too . . . but I'm on minimum wage 😉

they ride they like it...fair play.

and i reckon some of it might be way steeper than it looks.

ta very much, it's good to be reminded that at least there are other people as rubbish as I am 🙂

Fail fail fail fail fail fail fail.

I don't see what's so bad. Looks like a couple of them are quite good, the others may have bought bikes because they're mates have - like most groups of friends do. If this is sh*t then so am I. Now I have to live with people laughing at me 🙁

Thanks that brightened my morning with a chuckle
They looked to be having fun and making full use of all their kit
no point having the armour on if you dont use it 😆

That looked like fun to me

more money than skills - who cares?

Some great YBF crashes, thanks 🙂

i think some of the crashes looked a bit staged.....
the guy in green could obviously ride preety good, and a couple of the others.

easy to take the pi55 from behind the keyboard too....... 😉

Maybe you could point to someone with a heavy £2K full suss bike who ONLY ever rides fire roads as having more money than skills, but this vid is fine. There was one short bit where I thought the guy was going too slow to make the jump but he did.

I seem to have just watched a load of kids having fun and not hurting themselves on crashing. I have far few skills than them. Do I have more money than sense too? I ride a 2004 Kona Caldera. 😀

The fella in green looked like a decent enough rider. Some of the crashes were caused by glaringly basic errors, and were quite amusing.

What the **** do I know though? I cleared the last section of the gold lower at inners on my arse a couple of weeks back.

Jesus, we're mocking other MTB'ers for having a go? You try,you fall off,you learn.

alpin - Member
perhaps they would have been better spending some cash on a skills weekend and not a "freeride" trip to South Tirol....

titusrider - Member
lol - they are an embarasment

people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones,you two cant even spell FFS!

Nice video, trails look good and the riding was alright, a couple of offs but hey they're having fun - no need to take the pi55

crickey, if you think they are rubbish, dont come riding with me !!

alpin - Member
perhaps they would have been better spending some cash on a skills weekend and not a "freeride" trip to South Tirol....

people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones,you two cant even spell FFS!

am i being stupid here, but where's the spelling mistake??

Anyway, a mixture of crap riding and pretty descent riding. Suppose thats what makes a good mtb video nowadays ( in my eyes anyway)

Have any of the nay-sayers ever video'd themselves riding? You may be unpleasantly surprised. You probably don't look like steve peat.

And alpin, are you not a guide? Surely your job is to encourage people to enjoy riding their bikes, at all levels?

am i being stupid here, but where's the spelling mistake??

The thread title has money spelt wrong, and

lol - they are an embarasment

So they fell off a few times, big deal. Some of the riding wasn't that bad really, and based from the video one can't tell how steep some of the gradients were. Looks like they had fun and a laugh at least, which is what it's all about.

OP - please post a video of your riding skills. Ciao

God forbid people shopuld film themselves riding bikes before they've reached expert level.

I enjoyed that more than most videos posted on here, seeing people fall off is interesting.

I don't see the problem, they look like they were having fun and it wasn't that bad.. I'm sure I look a lot slower and less stable on the bike and probably don't even go that fast!

alpin posts up quite a lot on this subject

wish it was (weak) trolling but I don't think so

how bitter do you need to be to begrudge other people their enjoyment of riding like this ?

Brilliant 🙂 It's carry on freeriding!! I have neither money or skills so I can't criticise 😆 If they are having fun who cares???

Theres clearly a range of different skilled riders in the vid.

But who cares what they ride like? I bet they had a hoot.

Alpin does seem to a have a bit of a penchant for inverted snobbery. This is not his first post criticising people if [b]he[/b] thinks the rider is not up to the standard of the bike. Not good form if you're a mountain bike guide gaining a living out of these people.

If thats the case he's a tool.

Wait the OP is actually an MTB guide? Bad form!

[i]OP - please post a video of your riding skills. Ciao[/i]

He has in the past it was a dull video, staged to hell of him doig endos around switch backs and dragging his back wheel.

I have more money than skill, nothing wrong with that.

Shame I am skint 😳

As has been said by many, surely this is what MTB riding is about, having fun and not hurting anyone else in the process.

Very poor form for a guide to criticise other riders as well.

I cant ride that well, but can scare chickens and other wildlife on a bike 🙂

top stuff - love it, like the songs says, having fun!
ragging their bikes, something people on this forum should do more of rather than slagging others off or discussing the pros and cons of wearing a helmet

I enjoyed the vid, they seem to be having fun on some great tracks. Rider in green seems pretty clued in, others are at least giving it a go. What's to criticise?

Well produced video from guys who didnt edit their mistakes .I am crap on really steep stuff and cant afford a bike like that.For once I wont criticise

mojo5pro - Member

Alpin does seem to a have a bit of a penchant for inverted snobbery. This is not his first post criticising people if he thinks the rider is not up to the standard of the bike. Not good form if you're a mountain bike guide gaining a living out of these people.

But how experienced a guide is he? He does come across as a bit up himself. The only guide I've met like that was last on the climbs and held everyone up on going down or anything remotely technical. Some people crave adulation I guess, maybe that is his motivation for being a guide... I'm really interested in who he is going to guide for and what type of riding.

Good little video. Some guys having a laugh on bikes. Hardly more money than sense. I think Alpin has a bit of a chip on his shoulder or ego problem. I can see people flocking to ride with him...... 😐

What is alpins guiding company called? I'd hate to accidentally make a booking with them.

ha ha that vid did make me chuckle especially the guy who fell over the bars on that tight bend 😆 They have more bottle than i do throwing themselves around the trails so fast. I wouldn't dare ride with them i'd kill myself but id defo watch more of their vids.

Havin' a laugh is what its all about!

Plenty of pretty good riding on there, and they're clearly not embarrassed about their spills, otherwise they probably wouldn't have posted the video; so what's with the scorn? Where do you run your MTB Guides from, Alpin? I need to make sure that nobody I know ever makes use of your services, lest they spend their time being ridiculed or sneered at behind their back.

I totally agree, at least they're not shy over their mistakes

Good vid; missjudged post. It's that sort of snobbery that I'm sure puts a lot of people off pushing themselves.

So is "Freeride" just riding regular xc trails, but with full face helmets & a load of padding?

To be fair some of the tumbles they take in the vid warrant more armour than an xc ride!

The sound tracks says '3,2,1 and have fun'. They look like they're having a whole hell of a lot of it. Who the hell cares? They're pushing themselves and trying to get better. How else are you sposed to? You don't need body armour when you're leet, you need body armour when you're just starting to learn where the limits of your own skills and bikes are. If I ride tomorrow with half the attitude this lot have, I'd be proud. More money than sense? More fun than money :O)

Bless - think i might have done a bit of editing though

Fair play to them for having a go, but if you're going to drop a shed load of cash on fancy bikes when you're basically pretty terrible at riding, you sort of open yourself up for criticism.

The term "all the gear, no idea" is a derogatory term for a reason, no matter whether others on here would care to admit it or not.

I'm not convinced that using bodyarmour as a crutch for your lack of riding skill is necessarily the best idea either....

We all start some where or were you born a demon rider?

Brilliant. Haven't laughed so much in ages.

Yes, we do all need to start somewhere, just generally not on £1000+ bikes!

Why not if they have the spare cash then they can get what they want. Bunch of mates having fun on bikes, awesome.

love the way the 2nd guy has to avoid a chicken on the "run in"

Guess he took the chicken run.

Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. Their money, their choice.

But equally, if they choose to stick a video on the internet of them riding bikes of a quality well beyond their riding skill, it's sort of to be expected that people will point and laugh.

Ok so, oli an,d alpin can you please enlight me about how I should spend my cahs on bikes regarding my skills please... i'd ahte to be a AGNI...
Mind you there is french saying:
On est tous le con de quelqu'un...
Maybe we are all someone (somebody) else's AGNI...
If you're down to the 06 alpin please by all mean give me a shout. I have friends with very expensive bike, maybe you could rate how much of AGNI they are...

And can we know what guiding company you work for...

Riding beyond their skill? I'd say pushing themselves a little more to get better and encouraged by all but 3 of you who must be riding legends.

Juan,

As already established, I couldn't give two hoots how you spend your money.

However, if you don't want people to judge you and your choices regarding how you spend your money, don't go shoving videos of yourself on the internet.

P.s. I'm not sure there's a need for "that word" regardless of what language it's in.

Yes, we do all need to start somewhere, just generally not on £1000+ bikes!

It's all relative. If they come from families with lots of coin, then it's likely that they're going to be getting pricey bikes in the same way the get the latest computer/games stuff, shoes/clothes/whatever.

Knowing what I know now, I'd have loved to have started riding on a high-end bike that worked well. Should we all start out on a £150 craptastic full-suspension from Tesco (or whatever the German equivalent is)? To me, it makes perfect sense to start on the very best you (or whoever's paying!) can afford. If that happens to be a £2000 DH bike, then so be it.

I reckon they were pissed.

Drac,

You've misinterpreted me: I'm not saying they're riding beyond their skill (I'm not, however, saying that they're not either!), I'm saying that one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike. IMHO, this is not the case here.

I am merely trying to present some balance to the discussion in response to those of you who are showing a degree of pious indignation that anyone could possibly be anything less than awestruck by a video posted on the internet of people riding expensive bikes badly.

Three_Fish:

See above post regarding my views on people spending their own money as they please.

lowey - Member

I reckon they were pissed.

Nah.

If they were pished they'd have riden betterer.

[i]I'm saying that one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike. IMHO, this is not the case here.[/i]

I can't see how the value of a bike has anything to do with the skill level of the rider, unless you completely shallow.

Looked fun 🙂 That's what it's all about in'it?

Not awestruck, it's funny :O) But I still think fair play to them for trying. Yours, a £1k bike owner who is now going to crawl under a rock and never ride it again for fear someone will come along next time I'm flat on my back and laugh their ass of at me as they ride off on a perfect line into the distance. On a supermarket bike. With no body armour.

I've got two expensive, £2000+ bikes but ride like a drunken chimp - should i never touch them again in case twunts like alpin get offended?

muddydwarf.

get an entry for SSUK 2010 you'll feel right at home. 8)

As already pointed out, "all the gear, no idea" is a well know derogatory phrase. By extension, we can deduce that it is not a commonly held value system that spending inordinately large amounts of money on something that you are not suitably good at is just fine.

What constitutes an inordinately large amount of money or being suitably good is obviously a matter of opinion.

I'm selling my bikes now 🙁 Alpen made me ;-(

...one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike.

Why might one reasonably expect such a thing?

Loulouk, Muddydwarf,

Do what you please, but I'd personally advise against posting videos of yourself on the internet if you don't wish to be judged.

Hell, bask in the warm feeling that you've earned enough money to be able to mess with other people's value systems if you really want! 😆

Some of you expensive bike intollerent folks should go to an MX meeting to understand the true meaning of all the gear no idea...

Three_fish,

See my post two posts above yours.

I don't make the rules.

£1000? I'm sure I saw a ti-spring on one of those bikes, now spend what you like but if you're not a serious (and competent) racer that is a case of fashion over function and IMO will make you look a bit of a prick, unless you're one of the fastest on the hill.

What are the rules?

I'm saying that one might reasonably expect someone with a bike of a particular value to be of a standard not too far below the relative cost of the bike.

so if you're crap you ride a cheap bike, if you're very skilled you ride an expensive one?

I may suggest that the users of this very forum fly in the face of that statement

redthunder - what bikes you selling then?