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Thinking of saving up for a new bike*. I've been a bit tempted by the Nukeproof Mega, just wondering, anyone got any opinions?

Looking for something tough that's a bit less punishing and a bit faster down hill than my current (hardtail) big hills bike, perhaps doing the odd DH on it (which I'd be too slow for on the HT), and I don't want anything that's gonna break or take loads of looking after - want to spend my time riding the thing.

So, anyone got one/broken one/delighted with one/want to suggest an alternative at a similar price?

Oh and what's the warranty on it?

*or just bumping it onto the credit card.


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 9:25 pm
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I don't know how much you are looking at spending, but i believe the Mega is £800 on a frame only deal?
You may have parts to swap over but if not it could get a little expensive.

I have a Marin Wolf Ridge 6.8 (2009) and Winstanleys bikes are selling one for £1309.99 down from £2399. Its a great bike, just an idea like.

http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/18135/Marin_Wolfridge_68_Bike_2009


 
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I'm in pretty much the same position as you - got one on preorder and just going to transfer all the parts from my hardtail over when it arrives. I'm only going to need a headset and bb on top of the frame. November can't come round quick enough! Though as the previous post says, if you haven't got all the parts you need to build it up, it might be cheaper to get a deal on a complete bike.


 
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I've had mine built for about 2 weeks now and absolutely love it.Swapped all the bits from my hardtail over, except I obviously needed a new rear wheel so bought a pair. It felt like "my" bike after about 3 rides. It climbs really well sat down but took a little getting used to balance point wise when I had to stand up an punch it up something (I'm running a 1x9 gearing) but I put that down to my hardtail having a shorter rear end. I'm well used to it now though. Descent wise it's really quick, it's easy to find yourself doing familiar descents a lot quicker than you normally do on a hardtail and before you know it corners come up really quick if you have a concentration lapse! It kind of descends nearly as quick as my DH bike but is a lot more lively/twitchy. I haven't been down an actual DH track yet but I'm taking it to Fort Bill in a few weeks so we'll find out how it gets on there. Sorry for rambling a bit but I'm quite pleased with it as you may have guessed. If there is one downside it's a little heavy at 36lbs but that's the build and not the frame. Having said that I have ridden it probably 10 days out of the last 14 and wouldn't say it feels heavy to ride.


 
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Another post that is pushing me closer and closer to buying one! In my case all I need is the frame, forks and headset.


 
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Yeah I'll be keeping my eyes out for a deal on a complete bike, although I'm sure I can get a bit of a deal on parts from my LBS, even if I end up going for just about all new stuff. They may have to forgive me for getting the odd bit online too. I could take some stuff from a current bike, but considering I'd need new forks and wheels anyway I'd end up with loads of bits lying about, and all the bits on the bike it would be replacing are seriously old...

Kind of started thinking about it as a less expensive alternative to an Orange Alpine 160, i.e. simple suspension setup but with the "right" geometry. 36lbs sounds about right for the sort of build I'd probably end up with on it.

Oh, couple more things - I'll be wanting plenty of tyre clearance. How is it for that? Are demos available anywhere?


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 10:54 pm
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i must try one i think although it looks the same as my bottlerocket


 
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I'm currently running a 2.5 minion on the back and its got plenty of room. Thinking of dropping it down to a 2.35 as it's pretty much had it on the grip front. Thought it was fine till it started raining the other day-scary...
most of the demos seem to be mediums which was good as that was the size I thought I wanted. This is where I got mine from and they have a demo and one silver med frame left https://twelve50bikes.com/shop/NukeProof-Mega-AM-Frame-inc-Rockshox-Monarch-/120
I was also in here the other day and they have a medium demo bike and both black and silver frames in medium, http://yatxp.mhcqu.servertrust.com/Nukeproof_Mega_Frame_Medium_p/gcnmfs.htm


 
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I've had mine for about a month now and I love mine too, as mentioned above it climbs really well even with big forks and a short stem, it descends even better. It is pritty long for a am bike with a short cockpit (50mm stem on mine) the back end is very stiff so it doesn't flex about. The suspension link seems to work really well.

However......mine hasn't been with out it's problems, first problem was the rear axle had a completely different thread to the drop out! All sorted with a tap and die set (bought a 2nd drop out to double check). Next problem is the shock, my monarch has no damping at all. It's gone back under warranty still waiting for it to come back. And the third problem I seem to have a creek but I'm not 100% sure that it is definitely the frame, although I have spoke to someone with a similar problem.

Would I buy another?

Yes definitely it's an absoloute hoot to ride!

HTH

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Posted : 16/08/2011 11:49 pm
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I obviously needed a new rear wheel

Was that just because your old one couldn't take the 12mm axle, or for some other reason?


 
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both really, I was running an older Hope bulb hub and so would've needed to change the axle so I could use the 12mm and my rim was pretty goosed tbh. So I did a bit of bloke style justification and came to the conclusion that new wheels were the answer. I'll sell my old 20mm front one on a pro2 hub and sell my old rear hub on its own. Or maybe I'll keep them for when I build my hardtail back up eventually. All dependent on the outcome of my credit card statement. Just got back from the alps 3 weeks ago and it's my daughters birthday in 2 weeks. It could be one of "those" months. I just hope she appreciates a 20mm front wheel wrapped in pretty paper.


 
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i must try one i think although it looks the same as my bottlerocket

yeah cant see it being any better,mint frames them..

i've have a Mega frame sat here for a couple of weeks now which will be built up in the next week or so,pretty much started from scratch on my build though 😕


 
Posted : 17/08/2011 7:09 am
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Get one!

Built mine up for £600 less than an Alpine 160 would've cost, (and it's better spec'd throughout IMHO) it's significantly lighter and (having ridden both) is better, especially on the ups! Ploughs down anything, even in my incapable hands.

Built with Lyrik Coil U-Turns 1.5" (£400 @ CRC)
Hope Pro3 SPAM's with Flows (£330 @ Winstanleys)
SLX Double Chainset
XT Everything else
Nuke Proof Head Set and finishing kit

Under £2.4k all in.


 
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Any reports of any broken frames yet, & if so what was the warranty service like ?


 
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Fantastic bike. I swapped my Orange 5 AM for one (sold and bought)
It's lighter, pedals better and is stiffer.
When I throw it into a corner it comes out bang on the right line I want.
The Orange can kinda skip a bit if it's rough and loose. I used to like that about the Orange, but it's slower.
When the Mega gets loose, you're on it big time cause it just eats bumps.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 11:44 pm
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Next problem is the shock, my monarch has no damping at all. It's gone back under warranty still waiting for it to come back.

That's normal for a Monarch (rebound, at least).


 
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One of the guys I ride with has one, so I stole a ride on it. I didn't really like it, but I couldn't tell you why. Maybe it's not a bike you can just jump on and ride as you normally would straight away, and maybe the rear shock had something to do with it (gash). It somehow makes an RP23 feel half decent, which is an achievement.

Not impressed with the quality either. He had 2 frames before one of acceptable standard!

The first had some sort of funky crack in the headtube inbetween the TT/DT tube welds, and the second had a headtube that was so over-machined, the headset cups just fell out. Nice. The crack issue would also appear he is not the only one to experience this either...

At that point, I think i'd have asked for my money back, but he has stuck with it. I think he is regretting it now, with those issues, the crap shock and the ballache he had to go through to get an acceptable frame doesn't bode well for potential warranty issues. I can see why it's cheap.

As for it being light, it must be in the build - as the frame is heavier than both the Alpine 160 & the 5.


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 8:00 am
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the only 2 i know of, here in the alps, have both snapped in the same place on the chainstay.
assume they've been replaced under warranty...


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 8:11 am
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philjunior - sorry to hijack thread, but if you are after a frame only of that type/travel size...I have a Specialized Pitch frame going cheap over on the classifieds....may suit your needs and save you some cash...


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 8:13 am
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A lot of new bike syndrome on this thread


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 8:39 am
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Hungry Monkey,

Both chainstays snapped at the same time by any chance?


 
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Interesting. It was on my option list for if my five ever dies. Doesn't sound like it's living up to the initial hype...


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 10:12 am
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36lbs is quite heavier than i expected. my bottlerocket is 34lbs and heavy 🙂


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 10:15 am
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I know people with DH race bikes less than 36lbs...


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 10:16 am
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specialised had a problem with sx's breaking at the chainstay a while back too. maybe they beefing them up on newer models?


 
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Wasn't that down to ham fisted riders landing drops on the brakes. Loaded up the chainstays and snapped them...


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 10:33 am
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🙂 🙂


 
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jam bo does that mean ham fisted riders only ride specialised sx's?


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 10:38 am
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Marin_Maketh_The_Man - within 24hrs. same day, i think!

one was only 3 weeks old...


 
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jam bo does that mean ham fisted riders only ride specialised sx's?

I never snapped mine...


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 11:33 am
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34lb sounds a pretty light build to me for a 9lb+ frame jedi 😉


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 11:44 am
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Better lighter frames on the market although price point seems about right.

Its your choice - you get what you pay for. 🙂

I rode a friends a couple of weeks ago for a full day at Innerleithen
. The build was around the xt mark with 1x10 gearing. I found it average uphill and pretty good on the downs. Cockpit felt short with a 75mm stem (I'm 6ft and it was a medium.)

Paint and welds look cheap which is why I said above that you get what you pay for.


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 6:34 pm
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Early days on mine, but am really liking it. Small frame, weighs all in at about 30lbs, but not built up particularly light as everything came off my heckler, and I'm not that bothered about weight in the scheme of things. Welds look sound, nothing wrong with the paint (I've got the silver one), monarch shock is doing what it ought to (I had a PUSHED RP23 on the single pivot for comparison). It's short, but so am I, so it's good to be able to get a bike with the right reach, but that has a longer wheel base. In terms of ride - what Skyline said up there ^^^. It pedals surprisingly well, is stiff, very stable on the downs, and the more I ride it the better it gets.


 
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I got one and equipped it with stuff mostly off of here (inc the frame itself) as a mainly gravity rig (I live in CH and have loved big alpine stuff this year). But it is a really good pedaller, remarkably so uphill, so possible to use as an all day bike as well, even with this build. Only thing is the very slack head angle is a bit of bugger to get over obstacles on the way up.

Now, rest of opinions have to be put in context of being complete mince at riding. But it is a very interesting ride. My big full sus 29er is a real sit back and let the bike do the work kind of ride, but this thing is a different animal entirely.

It's a beast! 😀

The harder you work it, the better it gets. There are going to be many fun days with this bike and I am enjoying getting to know it. Hope it doesn't snap. I'm 6'4" and 19st, so it may be tested a bit. Pic is with reverb in down position, as I don't think my fragile ego can stand the slagging if you see it with the post up! 😆

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I was chatting to someone hanging around with a very broken Mega the other day. Both chainstays had snapped at the weld. A degree in mechanical engineering aside, I'm not any great expert on welding, but it looked really poor - no penetration at all, like the chainstays were only held on by the weld filler.

He also said something about being out with a group which included 5 other Megas and 5 of the 6 had failed in the same way, but I'm going to put a BIG disclaimer on that as he wasn't a Brit and we might not have been understanding each other correctly.


 
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Picked mine up a few weeks ago. Had a week in the Alps coming up and wanted this sort of bike. For the amount of use I'd get out of a 160 bike I really couldn't justify spending a couple of grand on a frame when I could get one that would be more than up to the job for less than half the price. Also figured that if it wasn't for me then I'd sell it on the classifieds and not lose too much.

Built it up with the usual kit (Lyriks, Hope hoops with flow rims and minion and HR combo, SLX double and a stinger, x9 10 speed, 50mm stem, 750mm v one bars, dropper post.) Not had it on the scales but reckon it's around 32lb.

I'd never ridden a bike with more than 120mm of travel for any length of time before the mega, so I don't have much basis for comparison. However, having expected it to be a wallowy old hector I was surprised at how well it pedalled. It also felt amazing to me on the downs. Coped well with rooty steep black runs out in Morzine. Didn't have trouble keeping up with most folk on bigger bikes. It's also still in one piece (though I didn't do any of the bigger jumps or drops - must get a session booked with Jedi!)

So I'm very happy with mine and would recommend that anyone thinking of getting this sort of bike consider a mega. I'm sure there are better bikes out there for more money, and if I'd come from a big bike background then maybe I'd be aware of shortcomings with the frame and shock, but as it is it feels ace to me. No regrets.

Edit: be interested to hear comment from Brant or someone from NP on any cracking issues. Anyone reading?


 
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A friend of mine sheared both the rear chainstays on a mega decending Garburn a couple of weeks ago,looking at this thread it seems theres a pattern emerging.. 😥 (The new early Commencal??)


 
Posted : 29/08/2011 11:08 pm
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Maybe it's just one guy and he has a lot of friends? I hope so, cause I really want to get one...


 
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Well this talk of poor QC has put me off completely, I was quite keen before reading of this. Normally wouldn't mind too much as it's probably only a few from a batch, but judging by reported poor Ragley QC as well, it's not looking good.. could just be all internet hearsay though I suppose.


 
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may be some hearsay in it, but i saw the broken ones i mentioned!


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 12:05 am
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Got one, love it, worried about the above chainstay comments? 😕

Bought mine from I-cycles, my LBS so not too worried about warranty problems providing they happen within warranty!

First problems I have heard about tbh, but then again I haven't really been looking. Perfect for what I wanted from the bike, although I fitted a CCDB from new so can't really comment on the Monarch comments above either.

Had it now about a month roughly, so I suppose it is still the honeymoon period. I would echo the above though, sold on geometry as it climbs well but descends better 😈


 
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ahh foook sake...

bought this thinking it would take the abuse,as thats what im after,and after reading this i aint too sure 😕

should have got a Bottlerocket i think!

aint got mine built up yet.


 
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Halfway through building mine up. Does seem to be a few worries about the chainstays but nothing like an internet rumour to get things going.

Anyone know how the long the warranty is on Nukeproof though 😕


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 7:35 am
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IIRC - 2 years but excludes jumping [not sure how on earth they know mind] so keep your tyres firmly on the ground


 
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excludes jumping!!!


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 8:20 am
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I don't know why but I just can't get the noddy CRC-frames out of my head with the Nukeproof. I also don't think it'll be 'up there' longterm.

Sorry, I also know that Saracen has alot of history and the current frame(s) are quite good however I too can't see this brand around longterm.

Same with the Ragley. I see it as one of those disapearing brands with 'where are they now'/'what happened to that brand etc'..

Flame me but its an opinion.


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 8:50 am
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Hora, why does it matter how long the brand is about? Genuine question, is it because of warranty issues?

Must admit I am slightly concerned by this chat of breakage, but would assume that I can get a rear triangle if needed from the good Mr. Brant?

Kev


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 10:02 am
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Brants left CRC.

I'd only spend a grand on an established brand.


 
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All chat and no real confirmation with pictures etc...just jealous orange/santa cruz owners who spent twice as much 😛

Lots of frames from all sorts of brands break all the time - its a fact of life.

Even if they are breaking then thats what a warranty is for anyway and surely they would sort this out in the next batch.


 
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Freeridenick +1.
The failures are unfortunate, if anything this is why it's probably wiser to wait until the 2nd generation. Though with the might of the CRC empire ( 😆 ) behind them I have no doubt it'll soon be resolved. Personally I'm all for supporting the CRC/Hotline et all, as it might make the more mainstream manufacturers sit up and pay attention, and start to price bike frames more reasonably again...

I'd still consider this frame, if I needed a new one (& have the ebay search setup already for any bargains).


 
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No pictures of the HT incident on the frame my friend had, but I found another with a similar issue which was also replaced from new when the owner kicked off about it. This one wasn't as bad as my friends.

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They tried to fob him off, but due to the nature of his job he got it die tested, they quickly then replaced it...

The other one, well, you can't really picture a loose headset. The HT was overmachined to approx ~1mm though, there was no purchase at all on the cups when offered up, so they literally just fell out.

I saw him at the weekend riding actually, and he did mention the cups on this one also pushed in by hand, however stayed in this time. He's really not very impressed with it as a bike. The QC seems dire.


 
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Interesting

The bike shop put my forks on so shall check this out...


 
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Hmmm. I also have a semi-built one in my garage. I told myself to hold off and wait for a second batch before buying, but the message didn't get through to my right forefinger, but this:

thats what a warranty is for
is my comfort. Looks like I need to get out and break it quick 😉

My headtube is messy internally - it looks like bleed-through from the welding process which has then been dressed out. The welds themselves externally look good and are nice and smooth. Can't see any actual cracks though, and the whole lot should have been heat-treated after welding anyway.

It all goes to show why this is one of the cheapest 'proper' full-sus frames currently available.

I have no idea how many of these frames were imported and what portion of those have failed - we are quite a tight-knit community and a 'friend of a friend' covers many folks who may post on here.


 
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excludes jumping!!!

nigel Page jumping on it,on the video whats that about then?


 
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That was one of the things that convinced me it'd be built sturdily. If it can stand up to Nigel Page's thrashing then it can cope with my mincing!

Also was a bit concerned buying from the first batch, but a two year warranty was some reassurance.


 
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wonder who's rode the Mega for what they claim it to be and had no snappages..

all in all these do it all 6" jobbies in my experience arent up to it,other than the odd trail centre.
thats my conclusion on the matter.


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 5:09 pm
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if you want something a bit beefier and a better warranty, wildcards are £999 at freeborne.


 
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Oh well

not ridden mine in anger yet
but shall be in the Lakes next week
and SwitchbackDH in the autumn which should be the proof in the pudding!


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 5:28 pm
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Blower if unsure and you haven't built it yet then send it back.


 
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i'd just ride it TBH

sell it on after 18 months or so


 
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Don't the Trail Addiction guides use them now?

I think Ash has one.


 
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its half built Hora..

gonna see how it goes with it,2 year warranty,if it snaps hopefully the 2nd batch will withstand it..

the scalps seem to be doing ok,well from what i know of,2 lads had em out in the alps who i rode with for full season and all spot on.yes the dh frame but still a glimmer of hope just 🙂


 
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You get rid of the Moment blower?


 
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yeah i did,had a Heckler for a while after the moment.


 
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Don't the Trail Addiction guides use them now?

yeah, they've got them, but I've heard of two breakages... Rich and one other (not sure who).


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 7:33 pm
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So they aint Nukeproof then 😕


 
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Like the other owners on here I suppose, I'll use the warranty if need be, but hopefully not.

Has anyone on here actually have direct experience of one of these breakages?
Anyone used the warranty and what was the response like?


 
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I have one and am a tad concerned but there is the warranty to help if it does snap .

Had a close look at mine and am struggling to see why there have been failures as it doesnt look to be a high stress part of the frame .

Any knowledgeable folks care to elaborate on why they fail here


 
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I'm hoping this isn't really that much of an issue, just that the frame is a new design so it's getting loads of attention. I used to hear about Konas snapping all the time, but I never saw one break and the two I had were fine for years. Plus, the two Megas that were being used by guides were probably getting pretty battered on a daily basis. It'd be interesting to see if anyone actually has pictures of one of these broken frames.


 
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Just get one of these....

[url= http://www.canyon.com/_uk/mountainbikes/series/strive.html ]http://www.canyon.com/_uk/mountainbikes/series/strive.html[/url]

Awsome bike.


 
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where did that pic from Gary C go?


 
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I never saw it. What was it?


 
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proof of a snapped nukeproof.


 
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oops ! operator error !

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there it is...

and that looks less of a snap and more of a weld failure.


 
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Yep, that snapped


 
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Fantastic bike. I swapped my Orange 5 AM for one (sold and bought)
It's lighter, pedals better and is stiffer.
When I throw it into a corner it comes out bang on the right line I want.
The Orange can kinda skip a bit if it's rough and loose. I used to like that about the Orange, but it's slower.
When the Mega gets loose, you're on it big time cause it just eats bumps.

Hi Skyline i am thinking of this frame or the Alpine 160 and coming from a Orange 5 AM
One thing i noticed with the 5 AM was the obvious difference of balance with the 160 front
and 140 travel on the rear.
Do you notice the difference of unbalanced travel of the 160 front and 150 rear?
And did you try the Alpine 160 before buying the Nukeproof!


 
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One thing i noticed with the 5 AM was the obvious difference of balance with the 160 front
and 140 travel on the rear.

Can't speak for the Nukeproof but if it's any use to you my Hemlock's 160mm up front and about 100mm in the rear and it works a charm- big hit out front, taut out the back. The Five's not really designed for it whereas the Hemlock and Nukeproof are and it does make sense, after all suspension up front with no suspension at all out back works very well. They do different jobs in different ways really so no reason that same travel is a better option.


 
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Plus, the two Megas that were being used by guides were probably getting pretty battered on a daily basis.

should at least be able to take this,thats what i thought these frames were for,and they've only just come out.

Garyc who's frame was that?


 
Posted : 31/08/2011 6:57 am
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