AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!
FFS!!!! It gets worse by the *ing day. What the * is it with the average pedestrian/docile heffer in the city centre. Here's the *ing news, you myopic *s!!! The strip painted green down the side of the road isn't an extension of the *ing Pavement. The clue to what it is, is in the symbols painted every 10 *ing yards down its entire length.If you glance through the Highway code, or maybe at the blue signs around you, you'll notice its referred to as 'cycle path'. Can you imagine what vehicles use it? Go on - try? Maybe chew some grass to aid your *ing dim-witted thought process. Do you know what one looks like? You *!!
Perhaps if you unclamped your *ing mobile from the side of your balloon-like empty *ing head, you'd be able to register something smaller than a *ing double-decker in your peripheral vision, before you casually trot off the kerb directly into my *ing path. Then looking at me as i slam the *ing anchors on, with an affronted look! As if I've somehow dared to invade your *ing personal space.
Luckily, the herd mentality of the *ing brain-dead dullards around you ensure you're not on your *ing own. They all follow each other into the *ing road like lemmings. Meaning I'm faced with a veritable slalom course.
THE NEXT *ING PERSON WHO DOES THIS IS GETTING *ING MOWN DOWN ON GENERAL *ING PRINCIPLE
.....and breathe
just drop your shoulder and follow through. Its the only way they'll learn 🙂
I hit a car mirror (on purpose) yesterday. It had parked and totally blocked the cyclepath, optiosn were either go onto road into oncoming traffic, get off and push bike through muddy puddle or sqeeze down the side and hit the mirror. Hes lucky I didnt take my brake lever down the whole side of it the stupid fvck.
Oh how I agree with you. There really are some spectacular ****wits who walk all over the cycle lanes oblivious to everything except their mobile phone.
There were loads out last night - tossers.
mind you, the ride home was brightened by the teenage girls (prob 17 years ish) who decided to pull their jeans down to just about their knees to show off their knickers!
very classy (and appreciated!)
cheesey - you live in Essex. They could have flashed their boobs and poured a bottle of WKD over themselves and it would be considered "classy"!
🙂
yeah! why dont they read the highway code, you do dont you?
205There is a risk of pedestrians, especially children, stepping unexpectedly into the road. You should drive with the safety of children in mind at a speed suitable for the conditions.
just drop your shoulder and follow through. Its the only way they'll learn
How is soiling yourself going to teach anyone a lesson?
Another quality rant though. 8/10 at least.
As if I've somehow dared to invade your ****ing personal space.
Sounds like that's exactly what you did. No law to say peds aren't allowed in there and it sounds like they were there before you.
I thought it was just car drivers that got wound up because something slower than them was hindering their progress.
Do you get tourists where you live? They are a particular hazard in Edinburgh - especially during the festival I have collected a couple death race 2000 styleeeee
tm - its the timing that irks.
a ped in the cyclelane can be ridden around.
a ped stepping into the cyclelane just a few feet in front of you without looking and without making any distinguishing manouevres to indicate thats what they are about to do (usually idiotPod or idiotPhone in place) = shoulder fodder (and pant pooing obviously MrA)
Trailmonkey,
The strip painted green down the side of the road
Do you cross roads without looking as well then?
Stoner - how true!
(classy birds & timing!)
ah the old tourist slalom TJ, used to love my ride down Princes Street to work. sometimes i'd take in the royal mile as well just for the fun of it. double points for a crusty 'performance artist' and triple points if you get between them and their crowd of idiot onlookers.
This is a legendary rant binners. I do not care about the rights and wrongs of the situation, but reading this is like being slapped quite hard with a pint of bile in a thin plastic bag, just below body temperature. Good work. 🙂
Do you cross roads without looking as well then?
Who said that they didn't look ? They've got a right to be there, you might have to slow down. Big deal.
Trailmonkey,
Perhaps if you unclamped your *ing mobile from the side of your balloon-like empty *ing head, you'd be able to register something smaller than a ****ing double-decker in your peripheral vision
You're either illiterate, or trolling badly...
If you glance through the Highway code, or maybe at the blue signs around you, you'll notice its referred to as 'cycle path'.
It sounds like it's a cycle [b]lane[/b], rather than a cycle [b]path[/b].
If it were a cycle path, the pedestrians have every right to be in it, and you should give way to them.
Do you get tourists where you live?
Don't make me laugh TJ please...
I don't know where he lives and it is not in his post.
So whats the differencee twixt cycle lane & a cycle path?
Pedestrians along some roads near me often step off the pavement looking the other way to cross the road. The road may be clear of cars, but if they haven't seen me I tend to maintain a course that ensures I pass right behind them then I say something like 'watch it' or 'heads up' right in their ear. They jump out of their skin, it's great 🙂 Teaches them a lesson without actually being agressive.
Of course, this is not recommended with old folks.
Your rant illustrates why I am against cycle lanes and more in favour of educating other road users to be more aware and courteous to cyclists. I am not sure I have this right (but I am sure some one will correct me if I'm wrong), but because cyclists are designated as 'carriages' rather than 'vehicles' a pedestrian then has as much right to use a cycle lane as a cyclist does. It's the same reason why technically you can't bar walkers from the trails at UK trail centres and why Bridleways allow access to horses and bikers, but not motorbikes and cars, which are classed as vehicles.
Cycle lanes are a bad idea IMO - but none of this detracts from the simpleton mobile phone wielding ****ing idiots that Binners has had the misfortune to encounter!
a cycle lane is for riding on, a cycle path mows down pedestrians and rants in online fora.
Binners I salute you.
9/10
You're either illiterate, or trolling badly...
Neither, the following suggests that they have looked, just not registered.
you'd be able to register something smaller than a ****ing double-decker in your peripheral vision
Maybe I just have a different POV to you. Either way, resorting to insults is hardly a dignified way to carry on the discussion. I suggest that you read the forum rules regarding how you talk to people. I've a suspicion that you wouldn't call me illiterate face to face.
No it's just because you have a we more tourists one week a year and you moan...
That's all.
That's an excellent rant, combines passion in your chosen topic with vitriol, capitals, exclamation marks. Good work, 8.5/10
Juan - you really know jack shit don't you.
*shakes head*
you've clearly not been to Edinburgh Juan
I would happily call anyone who hasn't read something properly illiterate face to face, and compared to some of the slanging that goes on on here I was fairly civilised, perhaps you're just being a tad sensitive...
A cycle lane is on the road. A cycle path is off the road.
IMO: wide roads should have segregated cycle lanes; narrower roads should have low speed limits and traffic calming; there should be direct cycle paths wherever possible, even if this means closing some roads and making cars go a longer route.
France - Area 640,053 SqMiles
Edinburgh - Area 100 SqMiles
France Visitors 78000000
Edinburgh Visitors 4000000
France Visitors per square mile = 121
Edinburgh Visitors per Square mile = 4000
I thinks that's why TJ might notice the problem!
(and that's not including the 40million day visitors the city gets)
Ah, so a cycle lane is for parking cars on, but a cycle path is also for parking cars on. 😕
Edinburgh is mainly inhabited by Londoners though, yes?
thick as fvck those mockney monkeys are.
its not funny
i hit a pedestrian stepping into a cycle lane in hyde park and he want down quite bad
had to call him an ambulance as hed done his knee,
few weeks later i get called into police to make a statement and wants to sue me!, with no insurance i pretty much crapped myself as didnt knwo what to do,
fortunately i blagged cover under my parents and they told him to go stick it!
Edinburgh population 400 000 IIRC, tourists during the festival over a million.
My friend commutes in Edinburgh to the Uni every day, just bought her a rather natty bike bell in the shape of a ladybird. Its got a very loud 'ddddrrrriinnnggggg' noise. I expect she will get lots of use from it.
Ah, so a cycle lane is for parking cars on, but a cycle path is also for parking cars on.
A cycle path could be part of a shared footway by the road. It could be a split path, slightly away from the road, but running parallel to it. It could be a shared or segregated path nowhere near to a road, or it could ba a bike-only path miles from the road.
A segregated bike lane would not get cars parking in it, it built correctly.
http://hembrow.blogspot.com/ has some great examples of butch bike paths.
Surely if the council have bothered to paint and mark out a specific area / lane for cyclists to use then the cyclist have the right of way??
We only have a few cycle lanes where I live and there is a white line down the middle of the pathway and in one side has a picture of a person walking every so many yards and in the other side a picture of a bike (common practice I guess). Now I only use it rarely because I'd rather ride in the ****ing road than have to keep saying 'excuse me' (don't want to ride with a bell) to get past groups of people walking and taking up both lanes and the amount of single walkers who walk in the cycle lane rather than in the walking lane is unbelievable!!
Why don't you want to use a bell? I use a shared path as you describe most days and a single ping from the bell from a distance away smooths the way for everyone. I don't really understand it but pedestrians prefer a bell and you can ring it from a distance away and they are (usually) tuned into it and know that its a bike coming past. A bell makes life easier
Bells rock. 🙂
Cos I don't use it enough to warrent going out and buying a bell and we only have one cycle lane in our town so normally I avoid it (I would I guess if I did use the lane on a regular basis).
I think however if I did I would get this and zip tie it to my bike rather than a bell
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Buggers would move then 😉
people walking and taking up both lanes and the amount of single walkers who walk in the cycle lane rather than in the walking lane is unbelievable
There's something about red tarmac that attracts pedestrians. On shared use, but segregated, paths pedestrians are allowed to walk in the bike part, but bikes are not allowed to ride in the pedestrian part.
i bought a mate one of those air horns with a reservoir that fits in a bottle cage
it is LOUD
he uses it on cherry pickers and access platforms though
Not been to Edinburgh during the festival, but for day to day pedestrian issues, Cambridge beats Edinburgh hands down - though when I was there quite a lot were language students rather than tourists.
Oh don't get me started about Cambridge - the cyclists are worse than the pedestrians!
Why does this problem not seem to occur in Europe. In Germany, the cycle lanes get used by the bike and the footpath areas get used by the pedestrians. Very rarely do the two mix.
Why does this problem not seem to occur in Europe
More cyclists.
Edinburgh pedestrians are the stupidest beings in the world, down there below sheep with learning difficulties and amoebae. It only gets worse in tourist season. Here a green man means “cross”, flashing green man means “look like you’re going to stop but then just saunter out into the road as the traffic starts to move” and red man means “just go for it big man, they do emergency stops in driving tests for just this situation”.
There’s two crossings on my route into work that are particularly dodgy, one at the end of Gorgie Road by Haymarket Station, through roadworks, where people just stand in front of you in the middle of the f888ing road waiting for a gap in the traffic and you need a swift start when the lights go green to make it through the linked sets, which you can’t do when there are some ignorant ****s holding their Starbucks coffee in one hand and fiddling with iPod in the other oblivious to all traffic. Which pisses me right off because they have a green man for most of the time and there’s only about a 20 second green light coming into town and you can miss most of that because a flock of ****s is in front of you. KILL THEM ALL, it’s the only way. I mean, they are only going to work, what’s the hurry?
The other one is East Fountainbridge, just after Lothian Road where people seem oblivious to traffic, wandering out of Starbucks with attention entirely focussed on their tray of coffees and not on the traffic, or status of aforementioned illuminated man. Had a very near miss with a man and his tray of five coffees last week – looked straight at me (on road bike with commuter orange jersey and flashing Joystick so not exactly in stealth mode) and stepped out in the road anyway about 10m in front of me. I yelled at him which sort of induced this “I’ve just stepped on an electric cable” dance, but at least made him freeze so I could go round him, and the taxi (presumably 2” off my wheel as they always are) locked up behind me. The taxi man was leaning out his cab yelling at the ****wit as I tapped off regaining composure. Not ideal.
You can ride defensively and make allowances for 95% of ****wittery, but not every last bit or you’d never actually get anywhere. I’m looking for bar mounted grenade launchers as I suspect that is the only language they understand.
Edinburgh no longer is a "place", its a theme park for cones, dead trams, JCB's, diversion signs, mobile traffic lights and holes of biblical proportion right across the city. In amongst all this detritus people are trying to get on with their lives...
The tourists in Edinburgh during the festival are a danger to themselves.
I've came up from the Royal mile in the car and turned left onto South Bridge and to my suprise found 2 Chineese tourists stood in the middle of the road, taking pictures of the archtecture.
Emergency stop + wet tyres on a wet road = screech to a halt, saw them litterly jump into the air and request new undercrackers in one movement !
Bike Commute -
Broughton Street in Edinburgh is my commute from Waverly.
Steep hill, 3 crossings and a roundabout.
It's a run-the-gauntlet style ride for about 3 mins top to bottom ! 🙂
(I cycle all the way home to fife in the evening, just so you don't think I'm wimping out and using the train all the time !)
“I’ve just stepped on an electric cable” dance
hahaha yeah I love that. Always reminds me of the secret signal from Team America.
Very good rant binners, at no point did it deteriorate into whinge and certainly kept me interested until the end.
Edinburgh is great fun with the tourists, it's all about anticipating their next move and then doing the opposite as they don't even know themselves. The Royal Mile pisses me off during the festival, it's just unwashed students in 'funny' outfits proclaiming how unique they are and how their 45 minutes of over-indulgent and unfunnny pap is somehow better than everyone else's.
Would screaming like a girl be a good way of getting pedestrians out of the way quickly when they walk into your path?
Juan - you really know jack shit don't you.
Yup he posts on a MTB forum under tj...
And one million tourist is just laughable. Nice is 800 000 people and the population tripled during the whole summer not just one week so don't make me laugh TJ honest.
binners lives in Manchester so the only tourists he's going to see are those who come from scotland who fancy trashing the town centre during a football match and getting eaten by a big dog.
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Always makes me laugh that picture.
I hope that dog got a rabies and tetanus injection after biting that Rangers punter. Wouldn't want it to catch anything nasty.
Hahahah I'd forgotten that picture. The whole series of them used to make me burst out laughing just thinking about it.
Juan - why don't you shut up rather than exposing your total ignorance.
Glasgow pedestrians are equally bad. I was called a "w*anker" by one last week.
I'm cycling along a Sustrans national cycle path and he saw me coming from quite a distance off as he's walking towards me. I'm cycling at a baw hair over walking speed. He stands perfectly still when I'm about 30 feet away from him. I go to pass him on his right and as I do he takes a sudden sidestep to the right forcing me to swerve into a railing at the side of the path. He then called me a "w*anker" and stood staring at me.
This was a grown man in his forties. 😆
Edinburgh pedestrians are the stupidest beings in the world, down there below sheep with learning difficulties and amoebae.
Class, pure and simple. But try Oxford Street during sales 🙂
Liking this thread.
Stu_N I know just the intersection you mean, I used to get routinely car-doored by some lassie "I'll just jump out here dear" right on the cycle lane.
I commuted across the meadows for a while a cycle that became much more fun when I got myself a REALLY LOUD battery powered honker horn thing attached to the bars and sounded it right behind any miscreants in the Cycle Lane. Too much fun... They were usually Italian for some reason.