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today i heard. is it true?


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:07 pm
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so it seems.


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:08 pm
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Just read that on Sicklines facebook post. Thought they were a big player in components here to stay.


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:08 pm
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less ugly swirly designs on parts and piss poor warranty back up is a good thing in my book. 😉

when you headed up this way, Jedi?


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:09 pm
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Yep, no great loss - £120 bottom brackets made of cheese & Silverfish customer service was a joke.
Cranks looked nice but wouldn't risk it after previously using their kit.


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:12 pm
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april sometime 🙂


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:19 pm
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i'm still here :wink:.just wanted to say jedi that i saw your video (that you put up here where you were riding some north shore.amazing man!i wish i could ride half as good as you (cannot even bunny hop 😳 nice one 🙂


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:20 pm
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i've heard they haven't but could be wrong


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:34 pm
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Cranks, bars, stems and seatpost were good. BB's not so good.

Might be some cheap stuff going. I fancy an Atlas FR stem.


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:37 pm
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Shame IMO.
Just removes choice and competition. BBs weren't great but theres plenty of rubbish kit about, avid made juicy brakes for a few years.


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:38 pm
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Not true, it seems. NSMB [url= http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=130802 ]link[/url] (see post number seven).


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:41 pm
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three fish, read the date of those posts


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:43 pm
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What? I'm only a year out...


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:48 pm
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This sux... I LOVE RF stuff. 🙁


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 11:59 pm
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So what about the [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/2011/03/raceface-circus-of-dirt-xc-series-returns/ ]Raceface Circus Of Dirt Summer XC Series[/url]?

'Silverfish circus of dirt' doesn't quite have the same ring 😕


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 12:06 am
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Does this mean my bars are now retro?

Cool:)


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 12:25 am
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Shame, some of their stuff was really good.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 5:37 am
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CRC will buy them.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 6:08 am
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... with everyone else's credit cards!


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 7:37 am
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Aw bugger, is that why CRC were shipping out cheap stuff at the start of the year


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 7:48 am
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They'll get bought. How many times have GT gone bust now?


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 7:53 am
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Wowser... I'm shocked. I thought they were a strong brand with a good following. I wonder if it was poor business decisions, market forces, or some other bullsh*t bingo reason?


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 8:24 am
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Race Face Aquanot Jacket. Biggest piece of crap I ever spent £130 on


 
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Race Face Aquanot Jacket. Biggest piece of crap I ever spent £130 on

Similar, i sent mine back and asked for cash. Got it too.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 9:18 am
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I remember when RaceFace took over Roach pads/clothing, they were never the same quality pad again 🙁

Have also experienced Silverfish shite warranty years ago and their attitude sucked back then.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 9:30 am
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I'd live to say the RF stuff I've had over the years has been brilliant, but I can't. It's OK, but no better than FSA and Shimano cranksets are a lot nicer. Bought mrs PP a RF jacket. It's OK but not waterproof at all. The Altura I replaced it with for her is way better.

I think that's it: Premium branding and pricing that can't compete with the 'good vale' brands like FSA and Altura on performance.

Sad really though. I hope someone picks the name up and sorts them out like On One with Titus and Hotlines (is it?) with Nuke Proof


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 9:48 am
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Justice is served - that's for your 'one ride only BB'!


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:02 am
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balls, my RF bb just died, what are my alternatives? the cheaper the better


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:05 am
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Shimano. Not glam, not trendy, but they work.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:09 am
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"balls, my RF bb just died, what are my alternatives? the cheaper the better"

Shimano for about £25 is the standard, but they aren't very well sealed and the bearings are difficult to remove from the cups.

Hope/Wheels Manufacturing.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:10 am
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cool, shimano it is. panic over.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:16 am
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Real Shame but they really are over priced compared to the competition but one of the few manufacturers to do coloured kit made them attractive.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:20 am
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Real Shame but they really are over priced compared to the competition but one of the few manufacturers to do coloured kit made them attractive.

they probably went under due to loads of unsold purple cranks 😉


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:27 am
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Some of there stuff isn't great, but a lot of it is. Hope someone buys them up - how much do you think it'd cost to buy raceface? 😛


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:29 am
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balls, my RF bb just died, what are my alternatives? the cheaper the better

X-type BB? Just swap the bearings out..


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:29 am
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Get ready for On One's announcement


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:36 am
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ROACH stuff was brillant, still got some stuff, raceface sad but agree with posts above chainset awful


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 10:47 am
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do you know something we dont Frankers... (get ready for on-ones announcement..?
its a shame i liked RaceFace bike stuff too... 😉


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 11:02 am
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had some bars, seatposts etc from them. Always seemed to be good solid kit.

Regardless, shame to see one of the big mountain bike companies disappear. Hopefully somebody will buy them and keep at least some of the staff in work.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 11:18 am
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Every RF product I've had has been great (including cranks). Never had any of the clothing though. The canadians seem to like it enough.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 11:25 am
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well my 'RaceFace' 'bottom bracket' has lasted me well into 18 months and still going strong. 😉 tho i see they have changed to this now ...'Shimano SM51 Hollow Tech 2 bottom bracket- on the 'orange bikes' now....
i liked the designer cranks tho alittle expensive...
yeah so gud luck to people who worked for RaceFace with the job situation... 😉


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 11:27 am
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Shame - I did like most of their stuff (BBs and Chainrings of cheese excepted obviously).

As others have said, I'm sure the name won't die - ripe for a buy-out?


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 11:43 am
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I think it's sad news. ( coincidentally, wearing a RF t-shirt at the mo). Despite having to saw off a pair of Deus cranks, have found most of their stuff to be good. Have their stems on two bikes.
Originally were the component arm of Rocky Mountain. --
Always a shame to see a small company go under particularly in the bike industry.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 1:07 pm
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I've been pretty happy with their cranks, bars, seatposts and stems but don't think much of their other stuff.

I'd love some of their purple cranks though. Seriously...

I'll bet CRC buy them up...


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 1:13 pm
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Ah, shame. Perhaps they'll get re-invented [i]a la[/i] Syncros.

Always done alright by their bars, stems, seatposts etc.

Always avoided their jackets and BBs, mind.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 1:24 pm
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Raceface are an odd bunch. Never has one company in the bike industry turned out some real cutting edge, rider designed components, whilst also selling overweight, under functional tat at ridiculously inflated prices to people who buy stuff cos of the logo!

But in many respects a company that pushes the boundaries and asks the riders what they want... Seem to remember (though my judgement may be clouded) raceface being about the first to make handlebars of 710mm or wider about 10 years ago, they also seemed to be the first on the scene with 1.5" stems, and if I'm not mistaken, 31.8mm bars too? So for that reason I'll miss them...

But, I've owned several raceface components over the years, and most of them have been pretty poor! I love their handlebars, as they are always the right shape for me personally, their stems are ok too (though overpriced), but their BB's and cranks? Ok, the Turbines were good when square taper was the only option, but ever since we've had splined BB's, shimano have always done it better and cheaper! And more reliably... Have had a couple of Raceface BB's in the past, they were shockingly bad!

As others have said though, won't be urprised if the name gets bought by a big bike company soon. My money is on Giant buying them, every Giant above about 800quid already comes smothered in raceface stuff now, by buying the name they can keep that and make more money on it in the long run...


 
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Gutted, i like RF stuff I was going to get a new chainset (obviously with a different BB) but I may need to look at something else, it’s a lot better than FSA chainsets (bent 1 on the road bike and the MTB one keeps coming lose and the BB are worse than RF BB) so may look at truvativ (sram) or shimano instead…


 
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Like my bars, stem and seat posts. Shame.


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 4:33 pm
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Gutted always really liked their hardware. Can't say I ever tried any clothing.

I slightly surprised about all the BB's hating, had a Deus on my singlespeed which was used solidly through last winter and it was still in good nick when I removed it a couple of weeks ago. I must be one of the lucky ones!


 
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the company produced bomb-proof kit. There no details yet of how or if the company can continue in another form or whether IP assets will be sold on.

interesting comment.

There's no that many companies jump before theyre pushed.

Closing the doors without being declared bankrupt implies a workout, surely.


 
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I've never had issues with Raceface cranks, have them on 3 out of 3 MTB's they look so good and are real nice too, granted BB's aren't brill but heyho.

Bars, stems & posts are great too


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 5:31 pm
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Had one set of Deus XC cranks, the drive side one was loose on the axle no matter how tightly you did the bolt up. Apparently this was "wear and tear". What a joke. Never bought a RF product since.

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Never had any problems with my RF Diabolous bottom bracket in two years. I only replaced it because I got some new Shimano cranks and thought I may as well put the new bottom bracket on.

Still got it actually, and might use it again if the occasion presents itself.

It's a shame to be honest, but I have to admit that none of their current products particularly tempt me to part with my money.


 
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My guess would be they didn't have a big enough share of the OEM market to be viable, more bikes seem to come with Truvativ finishing kit and shimano cranks than RF bits...

Just a theory but Rising COGs and reducing sales are never going to help any business....


 
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never liked their stuff, so no loss to me.


 
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The DH shorts are nice and strong. Might look for another pair while they are still around.


 
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wasn't a fan of the brand, but sad to see a big brand go under


 
Posted : 12/03/2011 6:54 pm
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Shame.

Their new Turbine stem looked set to take on Thomson too:
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Good ridance!, I used to rightfully so!.. drool over their components, but a lot of their range has gone to the dogs recently.

I broke the dust guard on my BB putting it in, then got told to change it as they apparantly built from philadelphia soft cheese. My jacket fell appart after about 10 rides, and then there is the issue of my squeaking cheep looking crank set that needs constant tightening.

This is surely great timing for Hope to get their new cranksets on the market ASAP, price em right ant they will clean up!

Kev


 
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Raceface BB's - well, yeah, a bit dodgy to say the least.

The Atlas bars, both AM and FR versions, are just lovely though. Glad I've got three of them sat here now.


 
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i've got a RF signature BB and it's brilliant. Not so sure who's gonna change the bearings now though.


 
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Are we all chipping in to buy it then? 🙂


 
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Are we all chipping in to buy it then?

No.

On one have probably beaten us too it.. 🙂


 
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Deus cranks, stem and bars on my bike at the moment, and an atlas jacket, can't complain about any of it, apart from the cranks which took some fiddling to get right, and still seem to eat BB's faster than shimano cranks (even with the same BB's).


 
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details here: http://nsmb.com/4228-race-face-shuts-its-doors/

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Are we all chipping in to buy it then?
No.

On one have probably beaten us too it..

I reckon the singletrack masses could beat on one 😉


 
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I like raceface and it's shitty that they've gone under, nowadays it's more about marketing than product quality. Raceface have done a lot over the years to promote and develop the MTB culture, they're a part of MTB history.

I'm going to go and see if I can get some polished diabolus bars and stem, to go with my cranks.

😀


 
Posted : 13/03/2011 9:10 am
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Was just browsing CRC to see what raceface bits out there might suddenly become nice and cheap.

£550 down to a bargain £500 for a carbon crank?! That's bloody stupid, they really can't have sold very many of those no matter how good they are.


 
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My Deus BB is still going strong after 2+ years is this some kind of record? Have worn the 2 outer rings out though, replaced them with Middleburn ones!
The kit always looks great but after seeing my mate nearly having his gonads removed after his seat post failed from under him I have avoided buying any raceface products.


 
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I had one of their cheese BB, lasted one weekend in Wales - sent it back to Wiggle who swopped it for a Shimano one that lasted years.

Apart from a catchy name, any company is only as good as its customer service and its reliabe / quaility components.

No loss as far as I can see.


 
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They do seem to of faded in recent years compared to around 5-6 years ago when they were very prominent, must of been struggling for a while I had a Raceface lightweight backpack which took a lot of abuse.


 
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A STW CoOp today RF tomorrow the world 🙂

i'll chip in 😀


 
Posted : 13/03/2011 10:31 am
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DezB - I had to saw off a set of Evolve cranks after ballings up the x-type top cap, they put up a hell of a fight. Still keep the remains of the crank to remind me of my idiocy!
Shame about RF though, I've been running the x-type for over 2 years and never had any problems. Switched from ISIS which I had problems with whoever's BB i got. RF chainsets have always stood up well for me, does the Shimano Octalink fit x-type cranks then?


 
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Sorry, not octalink, 105 I meant!?


 
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from another forum

They have not been bought out by Giant, Shimano or anyone else.

From the horse’s mouth – the reason they went under wasn’t poor sales or typical mismanagement, it was because one of the owners took out a multi-million-dollar loan based on fraudulent inventory valuations, all the while paying himself a minimum of $30k/month, until the bank found out what was going on and froze their lines of credit, effectively making the business inoperable.

which if true, is a really sad way to end


 
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Just About to buy some six c carbon cranks. Might stick to xtr now...


 
Posted : 14/03/2011 10:30 am
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that makes **** all sense..


 
Posted : 14/03/2011 10:37 am
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Not really, whilst I'm sure they are strong enough, I'm not going to spend £500 on some carbon cranks with a limited warrantee. At least I know xtr are strong enough.


 
Posted : 14/03/2011 11:25 am