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was what lapierre said when I sent my zesty back for a warranty claim due to a crack in the BB.

cheers


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:23 pm
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🙄


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:25 pm
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you had an inch left *shakes head*


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:28 pm
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tis true, ask crosstrax who kindly dealt with the warranty claim
Lapierre also said it had been "raced", possibly at mountain of hell, because there was a mountain of hell sticker on there, however that was 2007, I got the bike 2008.

Still, I did rag it, but then again, its a mountain bike.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:29 pm
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my hero, can I be your pit bitch?


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:38 pm
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well you killed it, so not within an inch!


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:42 pm
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was it a congratulatory comment, or a reason for not honouring the warranty?

Dave


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:51 pm
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Much kudos to you mate! I'd be dead proud if someone had said that about my riding!


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 3:52 pm
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apart from the comments, how were lapierre on dealing with the claim? I may have an issue with my frame.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 4:01 pm
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2 years old and dead? How often do you ride? Are they replacing it?
It seems that a LOT of lapierres are having problems mainly around the BB yet they don't seem to have gained the reputation that commencals did.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 4:02 pm
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Do you have any recent pictures?


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 4:11 pm
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I will second the witness that was Daz's LaPierre.

He rags it.

Do they really not warranty frames that have been ridden hard? Evil.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 4:19 pm
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to be clear, they are still honouring the warranty - however only replacing the front triangle
The crack is either due to a manufacturing fault, or caused by the stupid integrated bottom bracket thing
But, if the front triangle and swing arm no longer match, they will to coin a phrase and nick jases name, be getting a "flame job" on this very forum.
As for commencal comparisons, ridiculous, commencal had a serious manufacturing issue last year, a few lapdogs have cracked, big wow

as for turn around, it will be around a week (!), but then the Lapierre rep was in Crosstrax when I took it in, so he "expedited" it 🙂


 
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To be fair, I think it's more than a few and was also due to a manufacturing error. They may have fixed it by now, but I wouldn't buy one.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 7:13 pm
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French bikes sound about as good as french cars


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 7:33 pm
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To within an inch of it's life? Must have been ridden beyond it's intended use to draw that comment.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 7:48 pm
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halfrauds said the same thing about a dimondback "MTB" i bought they claimed it broke because it was ridden offroad...


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 7:50 pm
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Can you post up some pictures of yourself so we can all worship your wikid awsumnes.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 8:19 pm
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sure thing

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Lapierre, if you're watching, thats my nomad, not my zesty 🙂


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:02 pm
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dasnut

Still, I did rag it, but then again, its a mountain bike.

Would it be reasonable to expect an xc bike to take the sort of abuse a dh bike does?


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:28 pm
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It never got the abuse a DH bike does.
I never used it on a uplift day for instance.
Never been to the alps.
Never been ridden on a "DH" track.

Its been ridden fast and loose downhill a lot though. Even on "XC" rides you go fast downhill right?
I'm not so quick going uphill however.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:33 pm
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i bet girlz get pregnent just from lucking at you.
i bet you can do a skid that goes on for eva.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:39 pm
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We frequently get similar tales from the local hire shops when we bring ****ed bikes back to them.

"You've been riding this on the mountains, haven't you!"


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:39 pm
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It amuses me how jealous some people are 🙂

Still... makes for a good read which is why we all stay on STW 😀


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:40 pm
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Even on "XC" rides you go fast downhill right?

Yeah fair point I guess. What sort of downhill pointing type riding are we talking here though? If I rode my trail bike on my local steeper techy trails (not dh tracks) everyday I would expect it to break. I just wouldnt trust it or expect it to withstand such riding. But if I was razzing it around mellower trails, eg flowy singlerack I would expect it to hold up.

If only we had some niches we could separate bikes into.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:42 pm
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[b]The crack is either due to a manufacturing fault, or caused by the stupid integrated bottom bracket thing
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so, to summarise, it broke because it was faulty, not because you "ragged" it

maybe "ragged" as in over polishing? 😉


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:45 pm
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I'm afraid its all mountain biking to me, and the zesty is the bike of choice for it.
If you ride to the top and don't feel the need to wear body armour or a full face helmet to ride back down it, then a 140mm travel trail bike should cope. (ok I took my full face up skiddaw but thats rare)

To be fair its lasted 18months or so.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:46 pm
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no, the crack has nothing to do with my elite riding skillz, hence why they had to warranty it

they weren't going to warranty it because they thought it had been raced,
mainly because they thought I'd done mountain of hell on it due to there being a mountain of hell sticker on the swing arm. (I did that on a vp-free, in fact)

the ragged comment was just in general


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:49 pm
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I get the fast bit, but what the **** is loose?


 
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if you saw me ride, you would know 😉


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:51 pm
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My guess is that you fall off a lot due to the lack of skillz. Is that what loose means?

In my experience any bike can handle whatever you throw at it, but only if you ride it well with good technique. I'm thinking Jedi's huge assed drop on his hummer....


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:53 pm
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I've broke 2 metas that couldn't handle everything I threw at it.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:57 pm
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phoenix from the flame

In my experience any bike can handle whatever you throw at it, but only if you ride it well with good technique.

I think I've seen pro riders make mistakes, they happen. If a drop is smooth and you nail it, sure, you can do it on your granny's bike. If you case it........you might want to have some retard compensation.

I'm thinking Jedi's huge assed drop on his hummer....

I'd like to see that.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:58 pm
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I have been known to fall off and break myself, but, when you are pushing the envelope, thats bound to happen right?

you are right of course, I shouldn't have bought one of these:
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I'm only going to fall off it....


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 9:59 pm
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[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:01 pm
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crag, lapierres the new commencal, apparently, according to the self proclaimed all knowing oracle of mountain biking that is stw

(fact fans: commencal are from andorra, not france)


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:02 pm
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MisterGnar, just for you.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:03 pm
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woo nice drop 🙂


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:05 pm
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dasnut - you may well be full of yourself, however - respect for actually being able to back it up with proof.

If I had the stones to do a drop like that, I'd probably blow myself off too.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:22 pm
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artist, if you are referring to the video, thats not me.
my video of doing big drops doesn't end so well

but since you asked, here it is:
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big drops[/url]

squeal little piggy, squeal!


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:26 pm
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I guess one mans xc is anothers dh but after 18 months of you riding it, it deserves a medal 😉


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:28 pm
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I'm not surprised your frame's broken with the more balls than skill demonstrated in your vid. 😉


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:34 pm
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dasnut - I was referring to the pic you posted (apparently on the Nomad) - is that you, or just a random pic?


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 10:36 pm
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Dasnut, do you not value your testicles? If you did you'd keep your weight more in the centre of the bike. Perhaps a session or two with Jedi might help.


 
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crag, lapierres the new commencal, apparently, according to the self proclaimed all knowing oracle of mountain biking that is stw

Mate, comparing one manufacturer with numerous documented failures with another manufacturer with numerous documented failures isn't really a big stretch IMHO. You have stated that the bike was ridden as a 140mm bike should be and it only lasted 18 months?
respect to the testicles BTW. I hope your insurance paid out!


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 11:10 pm
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I can see this thread backfiring for the OP.


 
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Let me clear a few things up here...

-The man can ride - better than most. He went from passenger to rider in very short and intense time.
-The fact that someone can send it on a DH bike doesn't mean all the warranties on their other bikes are void.

How is the thread going to 'backfire' for the OP? He's already got a new frame.


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 11:29 pm
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🙂


 
Posted : 27/03/2010 11:44 pm
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MisterGnar, just for you.

Yep, I'm impressed. Thanks for posting. No way in hell I'd hit that on an xc bike myself, infact I'd probably give it a miss on the big bike if the ladder wasn't there.

I wonder would jedi be comfortable hitting drops like that day in in day out on hummer? Jedi?


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 2:03 am
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nasty crash there. Did you break your wrist then?

Love the video posters 'dh' there, it looks just like a cock and bollocks, intentionally I presume.


 
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<STWmode> Well, if you were really a rider of sufficient quality to grace these hallowed fora you would never break a frame. You are clearly a fool with no concept of the very important niches which MUST BE RESPECTED. You must study the wisdom of the STW elders, reflect, and address this deviancy. Having fun is SIMPLY NOT ALLOWED. How dare you? You have slighted us, and our children will be raised to hate you and all your fun-loving kind. This will not stand. Dribble, froth, rage, etc...<STWmode>


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 2:26 am
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send it to 'Kaesae', he can fix it and paint it for you


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 2:39 am
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did you break your wrist then?

he broke [i]both[/i] his wrists...


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 8:39 am
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yes that me in the pic, taken at the same time as the video.
for those who care, I had built up to the large drop over a few days
unfortunately it went wrong once, I paid a high price (2 broken wrists)
probably down to lack of experience rather than lack of skill (slight nose dive shouldn't result in landind with both brakes on)
but I have a good pic and video to show for it 😛

I have a desire to progress, at times that comes back and bites you.
The crash was 2 years ago (I got the zesty just after it, in fact I ordered it whilst I had both wrists in casts) and I have ragged that pretty much since (not doing drops as big as that, but caddon bank stylee ones) - rode my nomad for 2 weeks in the alps certainly faster and looser than ever (didn't manage the 2nd river gap at chatel bike park but there is always this yes) hopefully now a better rider with 2 years more experience under my belt

not sure how this thread has back fired on me?


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 8:47 am
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I've wasted 30secs of my life reading this thread.

Whats your point caller? 😐


 
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Some may say that the thread has backfired on you because a few shortfalls have been identified with your riding technique. Personally, I'd rather be good than lucky, but it's your call. Perhaps some coaching would be a good idea.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 8:57 am
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**** me, 2 years ago the bloke crashes on a drop bigger than most riders on here would have the balls to tackle and you're all queuing up to criticise his technique?

Get over yourselves.


 
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few shortfalls

it was a long fall if anything

yeah sorry, original post, Lapierre, zesty, weren't going to warranty it because they thought it had been raced.
Asked to produce evidence of riding on here, did

I am good, just unlucky 😉


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:04 am
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scott_mcavennie2 eh? I don't understand why hes bitching about Lapierre when they actually honoured the warranty. He used it as an excuse to show off. Poor show. Sorry.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:05 am
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I haven't bitched once about Lapierre, read the thread.

I am getting the frame back after only a week, so no complaints here


 
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To my eye, it looks like you are just riding off stuff, getting your weight back and hoping for the best with no thought for technique on approach to the drop. Any idiot with the right mindset can do that.

Also, if you a wrecking a bike (any bike) doing Cadon Bank sized drops then your technique has to be crap.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:08 am
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as I said, read the thread properly. The bike wasn't "wrecked".
The warranty claim was for a manufacturing fault.

thanks for the expert critique of my technique though, it means a lot 🙂


 
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Ragged to within an inch of it's like = wrecked.

Glad to be of service with the technique critique.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:15 am
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Quite obviously you'll never be able to ride a bike properly until you've got some sort of niche singespeed hardtail to hone your skills on.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 9:15 am
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that video is 7-8yrs old.
i used to ride the hummer at herts shore but it batteres you day in day out


 
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still yet to figure out how posting a video of me breaking both wrists is showing off....

anyhow, off to ride me bike, looks lovely and windy


 
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Fair play to dasnut. At least this thread has some content...unlike many others round here. As far as i can see he pushes himself, how many on here can say that?
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phoenix from the flame, you seem to critique technique alot...lets see some of your technique?


 
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Good thread. Sound's like you're getting your money's worth out of the Lapierre. Given your riding style, I reckon you should get something a bit tougher - Froggy?


 
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phoenix from the flame, you seem to critique technique alot...lets see some of your technique?

To be fair I've seen other people crash that drop. It's hard to explain but the lander is quite short and steep so you have to nose your front wheel in quite [url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcsolomons/2636181488/in/set-72157605872513688/ ]abit[/url] which makes it tricky.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 4:25 pm
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what a strange strange thread.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 4:40 pm
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Solamanda, unless you've broken a frame recently, not too sure why you've posted that rad snap.

At least OP claims to have others reasons for showing off.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 7:01 pm
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Solamanda, unless you've broken a frame recently, not too sure why you've posted that rad snap.

At least OP claims to have others reasons for showing off.


Why not? Lots of others show off with either stationary photos or just bike photos...at least something is happening there :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 7:24 pm
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come on everyone, feel the love!

probably about time for a group hug, lets end on a high, its back to work tomorrow 😆


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 7:42 pm
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its all bikes in the end either way!
🙂


 
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not too sure why you've posted that rad snap.

Because it shows the exact same drop and shows me having to really nose the bike into the lander. It helps to explain why dasnut crashed as its alot different doing it in real life rather than from the other end of a keyboard.


 
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its alot different doing it in real life rather than from the other end of a keyboard.
I quite agree and I am in no way questioning the riders skill (he looks plenty good to me). Rather that the lapierres aren't perhaps as durable as they could be.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:13 pm
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lapierres are French
So are Renaults.

Need we carry on?

French Engineering = Pish.


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:15 pm
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British Leyland were British.

So are Orange

Need we carry on?


 
Posted : 28/03/2010 10:17 pm
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Same thing!


 
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Chevrolets are American

So are Specialized, Santa Cruz, Turner, etc etc etc

Cube are German though....


 
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