I can understand the need to keep it 'clean', and I'm glad there's not the juvenile stupidity of other forums, but it's gone too far, I reckon! Perfectly good words, that are in the English dictionary, are being blocked. Gets kind of difficult to follow a psot, sometimes, as the meaning is lost because of the over-zealousness of the filter.
And I've noticced that some changes have happened overnight; I've seen posts from last night, where certain words have been replaced.
And the whole 'yikes!' thing is a bit stupid. Just use the '****', nowt wrong with that. 'Yikes'. It's like something out of Bunty, ffs.
Seeing as this forum is almost entirely populated by adults, can we not have a bit of common sense? Block certain words, certainly, but stuff like H3ll, p1ssed-off, 'dyk3'; is there a need to censor these words too?
I notice bastard and bollocks aren't filtered. Is arse?
Come on; there are more rude words used on the Daily Fail website, ffs...
And seeing as how it's p1ss-easy to evade the filter, anyway, is there any need for such Victorianism?
Don't be such a whining ****.
😉
Ah, come on; who's in charge of the filter? The ghost of Mary Whitehouse???
BTW; I have intended this as a sensible discussion, not a swearathon. The wonderful colourfulness and complexity of our language has space for a few 'strong' words, no?
You sir are a donkey ****ing shite licker. A forum that's used almost exclusively by adults shouldnt shy away from adult language. What is the worst that can happen? The forum might descend into a place where people actually type the way most people talk????? Dear god noooo!
If it's a place for adults, then there's no need for swearing, no?
RudeBoy, I think that's one of the great things about the English language, the amazing flexibility and scope for inventive swearing.
Knobjockey.
I think there should be a list of all the words we're not allowed to use displayed prominently, where we can all see it.
That would simplify the whole thing.
Surely Hell isn't censored. That would be religous censorship 🙂
Blmey! H-e-l-l is being censored. We're going to hell in a handcart that's for sure 🙂
Come on, folks; don't be silly now...
(Realises the thread will now probably descend into infantile stupidity, and actually be a hindrance to the cause of Free Speech...) 🙄
i am amazed that '****' is not filtered, it gets used so much here!
what about a few more in there? Today I am thinking 'shimano' and 'xtr'.
See, I can't actually get at what IanMunroe was trying to say, because of the filter!!! Ridiculous!
Gone too far. PPs suggestion is a good one.
Personally, I think these words are acceptable, as they have descriptive use:
B4stard
Sh1t
P1ss
Dyk3
H3ll
ars3
and others.
I mean, in this day and age, using words like those is hardly bloody swearing!
Can we say 'bloody'??
cockerel
julianwilson - Member
i am amazed that '****' is not filtered, it gets used so much here!
Why would it be? It's not a word. Neither is ****er or fuktard, or twunt, or cawk.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm away to bagpipe the vicar,but not before I teabag yer ma and engage in a spot of docking with yer da.
Christian Bale meets the STW swear filter:
[i]Christian Bale: Am I going to walk around and rip your **yikes!** lights down, in the middle of a scene? Then why the **yikes!** are you walking right through? Ah-da-da-dah, like this in the background. What the **yikes!** is it with you? What don't you **yikes!** understand? You got any **yikes!** idea about, hey, it's **yikes!** distracting having somebody walking up behind Bryce in the middle of the **yikes!**scene? Give me a **yikes!** answer! What don't you get about it?
Shane Hurlbut: I was looking at the light.
Bale: Ohhhhh, goooood for you. And how was it? I hope it was **yikes!** good, because it's useless now, isn't it?
Hurlbut: OK.
Bale: **yikes!** sake man, you're amateur. McG, you got **yikes!** something to say to this **yikes!**?
Director Joseph 'McG' McGinty Nichol: I didn't see it happen.
Bale: Well, somebody should be **yikes!** watching and keeping an eye on him.
McG: Fair enough.
Bale: It's the second time that he doesn't give a **yikes!** about what is going on in front of the camera, all right? I'm trying to **yikes!** do a scene here, and I am going "Why the **yikes!** is Shane walking in there? What is he doing there?" Do you understand my mind is not in the scene if you're doing that?[/i]
etc etc
I agree whilst the word football remains uncensored the swear filter is silly.
I pity anyone trying to organise a ride starting at Devils Dyke.
IanMunro - Member
I pity anyone trying to organise a ride starting at Devils **yikes!**.
You mean devils ringpiece? Devils clunge?
Oh fiddlesticks. You boys should be carful with your mis-spelled nasty language or I can see Mr Moderator handing out some slapped bottoms for evading the aforementioned swear filter.....
so is deliberate evasion of the swear filter still a banning offence.
On an altogether lighter note....my pussy and my beaver are snatching at one another.
EDIT: I meant my kitty cat, not a muff or front bum, obviously.
Generally the visitors to the forum are adults but there are no age restrictions. That freedom demands a level of self moderation from its users.
ATM, it's like a Stalinist purge!
Come on, mods. A rethink, perhaps?
Drac, well put, sir!
Yup it is.
[i]# No abusive or foul language - There is a swear filter on the site that will capture what we consider to be the most offensive vocabulary but any attempt to evade this swear filter will result in that post or thread being deleted.[/i]
Oh I can see a banning coming soon for someone brave/foolish
Some explanation - there's been a new swear filter installed very recently, but unfortunately currently still with the default settings. It's not really intentional. Bear with us while we trim it down to reasonable settings. Now would probably not be a good time to come up with ways to evade the filter, which the moderators generally take a dim view of.
All I'm asking for, is a bit of common sense. None of the words I suggested as being ok were banned before. And I don't think there was a problem. I would use any of those words in a conversation with most people, as would maost peopl eon here, I'd imagine. I wouldn't personally use the f and c words in conversation with people other than those I know wouldn't be offended by them.
EG, If I was telling someone about a night out, I might say 'ooh, I got a bit p1ssed last night'. What's wrong with that? Hardly spouting a torrent of filth, is it?
'Oh, I fell off me bike, landed on me ars3'. 'Got dog-sh1t all over me tyre'.
Etc,
Thank you, Tom!
Good to see that things will be sensible!
I think the sort of idiots that would abuse the filter in a stupid manner, wouldn't last long on here anyway. There are 'other' forums for such juvenile behaviour...
If I can get banned for a day for quoting blackadder, then you lot should be well out of here.! 🙄
While we're amending the filter, please can "on-one" "tensioner" "ss frame" "what tyre?" and "CRC" be culled?
That ****ing 'yikes thing is a bit of a bastard though. It's a bit ****ing Famous ****ing Five, stupid ****s. So why the **** isn't hell allowed, is the swear filter gaurdian some sort of ****ing religious bastard, can we say 'jesus' and 'christ' or does the **** not ****ing allow that either. Oh for ****s sake I give up. At least we're allowed to type CK,TT and football now. I'm going for my ****ing lunch, but I need a piss first.
Oh you are allowed to say that then , so '****s' is allowed but '****' isn't. So I can swear at a group but not an individual - cool 😉
There should be no swear filter. Use of language should be at the individuals discretion. It's a nonsense - saying "My stomach feels a little queer" is not the same as an overtly homophobic attack.
djglover - MemberIf I can get banned for a day for quoting blackadder, then you lot should be well out of here.! [:roll:]
whisper what you quoted
My post from last night is a case in point:
"Poorly maintained road bike bites me in the **yikes!** again!
Any ideas how to get the bugger out?"
Good job I didn't say the bike buggered me in the ar5e or it would've made no sense!
Some of those mis-spelled swear words MUST be allowed, or they wouldn't allow names like [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/**** ]THIS[/url]
Bloody h3ll; have you seen that?
Bewildering...
"Poorly maintained road bike bites me in the **yikes!** again!
Any ideas how to get the bugger out?"
Makes perfect sense to me.
I dont see the need for all the swearing or filter-avoiding methods, swearing works best when it's used rarely and in times of exasperation. Using it the rest of the time just looks stupid and like you never left your early adolescence IMO. I'm all for the increased filter, maybe then people will realise how frequently they actually use words that could be considered offensive. I did find "TT" in the old filter a little stupid though! It we all go about using h3ll instead of the actual word, or c nut instead of ****, we might as well just write the original. And it seems c nut has been filtered too now 🙂
So is the guy whos profile I linked to above now called **yikes!** then?
For the first couple of days, when this new type forum appeared, there as no swear filter. Because everybody expected it to be there, everyone exercised restraint.
Agreed, not everyone can be expected to be sensible, but it was good to see people not being idiots, and descending into abuse.
nickc - Member
If it's a place for adults, then there's no need for swearing, no?
Fair point, but language can be fun, and there's no reason it can' be a little 'colourful', in the right context. Meant to be a relaxed forum.
H3ll, p1ssed-off, 'dyk3'; is there a need to censor these words too?
I agree with the first two. But isn't that last one generally about as offensive as calling person of African descent a word that rhymes with digger?
Not to say that is should be censored. We're all big boys here. But I think saying that it is non-offensive is a stretch.
Answer - NO.
It appears his account has been removed. I hope it's been explained to him as to why, so he can get another log-in....
EDIT : Shut up, Peter. It's back again.
[i]And it seems c nut has been filtered too now[/i] But ****s hasn't, I wonder if bastards has?
Oh it has now, with the far more sensible star approach
and we can say piss and hell too. Someone is paying attention 😆
Fair point, but language can be fun, and there's no reason it can' be a little 'colourful', in the right context. Meant to be a relaxed forum.
Not sure we can define how the mods want their forum to be, relaxed or not. Yes people exercised restraint, though as soon as a filter arrived people started treating it like a challenge - a bit pathetic IMO!
But isn't that last one generally about as offensive as calling person of African descent a word that rhymes with digger?
What, 'dyke'? (Dike, dik3, dyk3)? I don't think so. I think Lesbian women use it to describe themselves. Like some Gay men use the word 'queer'.
In fact, is censoring it not actually a bit homophobic?
TBH, there's actually very little that needs censoring, as long as people can be respectful of the forum, and each other.
Coffeeking- I agree that excessive use of obscenities is just stupid, and a pain to others. But the forum is a place where 'normal', everyday language should be ok.
Bit of self-restraint is all it takes, And I think most people on here can exercise that. There will always be one or two idiots, and things can get a little fruity of a Friday night, I've noticed, but as long as people act in a responsible manner, then there shoon't be a problem.
What, 'dyke'? (Dike, dik3, dyk3)? I don't think so. I think Lesbian women use it to describe themselves. Like some Gay men use the word 'queer'.
And I believe young black gentlemen may refer to each other as "niggaz" or some such. But it would still earn me a punch in the face if I did it!
