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'Detectives from Scotland Yard have been granted permission to review the files of Portuguese investigators for the first time'.
So does this mean they will start by investigating why the McCann's left their daughter unattended in a hotel room in a foreign country while they went out for the evening?
Abandonment of a minor/child neglect? Perhaps these are issues which Scotland Yard could consider discussing with the Portuguese authorities?
Mrs McCann has a brilliant tan at the moment.
Probably because she's been lying in The Sun for the last fortnight.
I certainly hope they investigate why they left them alone.
She has the look of a psycho about her.
Abandonment of a minor/child neglect?
Yeah, they really need punishing those two 🙄
So, what do you think? Guilty or not??
Whilst I realise that losing a child is awful, I do wish that she'd accept things and move on, and stop going on about it.
I give this between one and two pages.
<Mystic Meg mode> I foresee a thread closure....</Mystic Meg>
EDIT: Damn my infernally slow typing!!!!
lol @ BoardinBob.
For any parent to lose a child must be such a traumatic episode that would be impossible to recover from fully. I'd love to see them reunited, but I can't see that happening somehow.
FWIW I would NEVER leave my child unattended in a physically separate building away from home, no matter where I was. My son is too precious for me to ever consider being that complacent.
Initially I believed they had accidentally killed her and dumped the body - however if so I really don't see why they would be making a fuss still after all this time. So I will have to accept it was a stranger abduction.
Not.
So, what do you think? Guilty or not??
Guilty of murder, probably not.
Guilty of neglect and stupidity, definitely.
Also, this would be a good time for anyone [i]without[/i] children to step away from the thread. You could never possibly understand.
dd how patronising!
Surely their priority should be for trying to locate the victim, not point fingers and criticise the parents. I'm sure what happened has been a lesson to them and parents across the world.
As for letting it go and moving on, if something like that happened to my 4 year old daughter, there's no way I could ever move on.
Total stupidity on their part but no one deserves that sort of thing. If I ever lost a child to abduction I won't ever stop looking either.
Also, this would be a good time for anyone without children to step away from the thread. You could never possibly understand.
6/10
dd how patronising!
i undestand what he means though, in order to comprehend this you need to have experienced those ties.
If I ever lost a child to abduction I won't ever stop looking either.
yep, never stop, not ever
personally I think the parents have something to do with it. I think we're seeing some kind of complex guilt thing being played out.
I got a 6 from Torminalis. You in a good mood or something? 🙂
What they are doing is keeping her name in the press and in people's minds as the longer people are talking about her, the more chance (in the parents eyes) that she will be spotted/found. I think they are, quite understandably scared, that she will become another missing child on a list somewhere. I also think that, again quite understandably, they are looking for any chink of light that might give them "something" and they have more faith in Scotland Yard of finding that than the Portuguese Police.
As for whether they know more than they are letting on, well, if I had done something I regret (admittedly not of this magnitude) I be keeping as quiet as possible not putting it into the national press.
Yossarian - I think if they had they would have shut up by now. I believed they did it at first but no longer do
Really? I suspect many thousands of people from britain travel to the continent every year and essentially do exactly the same thing. With one abduction in my memory - that makes the statistics actually very safe. Probably more likely to die travelling to go on holiday than be abducted even if you hand a sign out the window saying "unattended minors inside" yet nobody suggest people shouldn't travel!Total stupidity on their part...
True, no kids, so I have no idea about loosing a child..? hooohummm.
Neglect deffo, why wasn't either of them prosecuted in Portugal? As for the theories about drug induced coma to shut the kiddo up I think thats a bit harsh, but feasable, abduction erm possible but to what end? For someone else to bring up a blond kid from the midlands? She'd surely have a accent by that time..
As for the publicity I'm sick of hearing about it.
And I'm not happy about my taxes being spent on an irresponcible parent just to apease her guilt.
zappa - I've got some crank bros 50/50x goodcond..£20, if you are interested 😉
I got a 6 from Torminalis. You in a good mood or something?
Twas a worthy effort, I applaud.
she has a new book out.
Perhaps scotland yard would be better employed catching criminals like thieves, drunk drivers etc, as oposed to reinvestigating an alledged crime commited in a foriegn country investigated by their own police.
I would say "a little bit silly and mahoosively unlucky".
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Yossarian - I think if they had they would have shut up by now. I believed they did it at first but no longer do
+1 surely if they'd been involved in whatever way and has subsequently "got away" with it, the last thing you'd want to do is raise the issue again?
Perhaps this is an example of some people using the press, media and public support to encourage the police to pursue a case? Presumably the police think that there is something worth pursuing here.
maybe you are right TJ, there's definitely something else gone on that hasn't been disclosed from the parents though. Everytime you see the mother its staring out from her like a light.
And actually I still agree with DD. I lost my eldest son for 15 minutes at an adventure playpark a while back, the feelings of panic/terror are utterly indescribable
I don't think they did anything different from what every sensible parent does on holiday, leaves their kids and keeps nipping back.
They just got horribly unlucky and the guilt will be with them forever.
I think the search should be for a 4yr old body though.
Whilst I realise that losing a child is awful, I do wish that she'd accept things and move on, and stop going on about it.
what do you want her to accept they dont knwo whether she is alive or dead. if this happened to anyone who had children I dont think you could ever move on until you get closure one way or another. You either have no children or no heart.
I suspect the guilt in leaving her alone also fuels them to keep looking. They did something stupid they are paying a high price I would not want to be in their place nor post insensitive MTFU type commentson the internet.
I see little point in prosecuting them for anything and as it happened abroad I dont think we can.
Initially I believed they had accidentally killed her and dumped the body - however if so I really don't see why they would be making a fuss still after all this time. So I will have to accept it was a stranger abduction.
And you based this on ?
True, no kids, so I have no idea about loosing a child..? hooohummm.
Mine are all of an age where they can look after themselves [in a fashion 🙂 ]
But, I shudder when I remember the panic/intense fear that losing sight of your kid at some public place caused on the few occasions it occurred, nothing I've experienced before or since comes close
So maybe, those without kids really can't comprehend some of the emotion?
dd - I don't have kids but I can say, hand on heart, that if I did,I would NEVER leave them home alone. I would have dinner in the garden while they were in bed but I'd have a monitor on the table. I find what the McCanns did incomprehensible.
I know they must be suffering but it's entirely their fault.
😯I do wish that she'd accept things and move on, and stop going on about it.
As usual the sanctimony on this subject is staggering.
maybe you are right TJ, there's definitely something else gone on that hasn't been disclosed from the parents though. Everytime you see the mother its staring out from her like a light.
i think both the yard and the portugese police would benefit from the use of your extra sensory perception.
I know they must be suffering but it's entirely their fault.
No blame to be shouldered by the abductor then? Spose rapist victims are all asking for it too then?
And you based this on ?
The same thing TJ bases all his assertions on. His gut feeling. 😉
There was a whole load of comments on a news-site the other day about all this - the article was about the appeal to Cameron to have an inquiry, the new book etc, the comments (far more than I could be bothered to read) mostly went something along the lines of "prosecute them for neglect".
*is feeling guilty*
Initially I believed they had accidentally killed her and dumped the body
Me too, but if they had did that, surely the body would have been found by now. I don't believe they would have known the local area well enough to hide the body so it would never be discovered.
We met a couple in their 50's on holiday a few years back. We were in Spain and they were off to Morocco the next day searching for their daughter who had vanished whilst walking through a market with them out there nearly 20 years previously. Very sad, and very sad for the little McCann girl involved regardless of who did what.
TBH I think the ammount of press / public interest around the case of the McCanns will have sealed the fate of Maddie, if she was kidnapped for whatever reason she'd have been got rid of by now.
i think both the yard and the portugese police would benefit from the use of your extra sensory perception.
maybe they would, my opinion is that this is already on their radar - can't do nowt without evidence though can you?
actually y'know we talk about the suffering of the parents, what about the child? Do we actually want to hypothesise about what's happened to her?
Mrs McCann has a brilliant tan at the moment.Probably because she's been lying in The Sun for the last fortnight.
LMAO, I like it.
I struggle with long sentences but suffice to say some the intial posters are just showing what total arseholes they are. Typical STW mornic judgemental idiots.