[Closed] which beamshot looks best here

Blue

Black.

i prefer the "Blue" as there is less glare,HTH.

blue

Black. But it really needs a reall life test 😉

black for both

black

blue

Black, obviously, you can't see the bloke in the blue shots...

Blue,

Must be more powerful as well as the its vaporized Jemma & Paddy in the photos 😆

Blue, less glare & the middle ground hasnt been "whited out" therefore definition is improved.

Whats the difference, a filter?

Blue seems to have more definition from the photograps.

Blue looks more 'day for night' - natural

blue is much easyer on the eyes

blue as it appears to have more definition

blue for me troutie
lol @ smudge 🙂

no filters 2 identical liberator lights just different leds .

Black is 6 xpg cool whites running at 1 amp so a theretical lumen count of 2106 lumens

blue is 3 XPG cool whites and 3 XPE natural white at 1 amp
for a theretical lumen count of 1821 lumens .

I'd have thought this is quite dependent on how people have their monitors set up and suchlike, but FWIW I prefer "black", much whiter light to my eyes.

blue less glare, or at leaxt it seems so in the shot.

blue if it wasn't so green, otherwise black

black. the blue has a green cast to the light which doesn't help with separation of trail and foliage (different colour temperature of the bulb or different processing/jpeg settings?)
the human eye will correct this colour shift as long as it's not too severe like a mercury vapour streetlamp.

if they were colour balanced the same i expect the differences to less pronounced.

I prefer black as blue has a definite green cast and black seems to offer more definition..

However, it may be that your camera is doing weird shit when it sees by a different colour light and adjusting the white balance.

I'm sitting at my desk which is illuminated by a white photo lamp (all I could find for a desk lamp!) so this will also affect it.

[EDIT] Basically what he said! ^

might help if you tested them at night instead of in the daylight 😉

but black.

What does 6 XPEs look like - "what do you mean you haven't made one yet" 😉

- Would a slight filter 'work' on the XPGs - or is their output too narrow?

Blue (although they are very similar!)

Blue for me, only cos the light is more dispersed with less of a central spot.

Black certainly looks brighter on both counts. Blue seems to have a green tint but I'm viewing on a mobile.

Black, though I have one eye full of antibiotic ointment.

Ming the merciless

Hope the eye gets better quick
did you mail me and did I reply cos I am still going through the inbox
and was sure I saw a mail from you but cant find it now and not sure if I replied.

the leds in the blue light are the newest supposed to make color rendition better than the harsh cold white of older leds .

and if I did one with all the natural it looks a bit like a halogen light
so mixed them to try and get the best of both types.

and wanted opinions thanks all I guess it is subjective to the user as the poll result is showing with some liking one over the other but it does seem blue is just in the lead at the moment

Black, the Blue doesn't show up the browns and yellows as well (but then again it could be my monitor).

Black is much better for me. It gives much better definition.

Black - everything has it's own colour.

Blue - everything just looks green.

i guess our own screen settings might be influencing this, but i prefer the 'Black' light.

Blue.

I suspect that this poll isnt really helping you matey. 😆

You got that right Lowey
more confused than ever now . 😐

black and black

Waters now further muddied 🙂

black all the way

I want one

Blue @ high power

Black @ low power

I have 1800 lumens via 6 XPG's, but preferd the original beam from the donor halogens as they were warmer, which maked the contrast er easier?

Chris,

can't decide but I think it's black high, blue low. Doesn't help that really does it!

Did the bottle of red turn up?

Macgyver

Hi Macgyver.

Yes it did thank you and very nice it was too though fortunatly the wife was not keen she prefers white .

Boy have you ever wished you had never started something 😕

Black is "brighter" but I reckon blue would be less tiring to the eyes.

Can't wait to test one out...!

Matt will be in the post today
and you are getting the blue so can give a subjective opinion

Brilliant - will be tested side by side to a 601.

Come on tomorrow night - hurry up and arrive!

Black for both. If you need any more testers....:-)

The colour rendition on black is more accurate, you can see this in the leaves and the soil, also on the wall where there is a broader range of orange & brown visible in the bricks. The blue has a definite greenish tint to it. That's not to say I prefer the black though! There is something appealing in the lack of glare from the blue and what [i]appears[/i] to be a more natural fade of light because of this. Maybe 4 & 2 is the way to go on the LED count 😀

Black is 6 xpg cool whites running at 1 amp so a theretical lumen count of 2106 lumens

blue is 3 XPG cool whites and 3 XPE natural white at 1 amp
for a theretical lumen count of 1821 lumens .

Trouty,
I think the spread of votes indicates you're in the right area, converging on the best compromise balance between the two LEDs.

At risk of "teaching my grandmother to suck eggs" how about 4 cool/2 natural?
HTH

(edit - damn - too slow - rustry got there first)

Interestingly I would have guessed the exact reverse LED-wise.
The black photos have much more variety of colour. I would have expected the warm LEDs to have produced this.
Of course it could look completely different to the eye (as opposed to the camera).

Anyway - I prefer the black - it looks much more like daylight in the photos.

Black in both cases: Better contrast and colour in my opinion.

Ah, so.

Without telling me, a light has been acquired for an unofficial group test, against the mighty Lumen Liberator, in the hands of Surf_mat.
Would have been nice to have been asked
😉

Trout.
Did you know Surf_Mat was going to do this ?, what have you set the Maximum output level to on that Liberator ?
🙂

By the way, nice beam shots. Of course, we all recognize them as being yours, and the result of your hard work and efforts.
😀

black here for both.

Lum - nothing like that at all. Just wanted to try both out. No plans to do some big write up, just keen to look at both. Can't see a problem with that? Apologies if it is a problem though!

No problem mate, just a bit of a surprize.

If you turn them both on at the same time...

Then just don't point your bike at anyone you [i]like[/i], or a reflective surface.

Enjoy.

😀

Black for both. There's a bit more spread on the Blue (not really anywhere you need it though), but the colour is 'orrid.

Lum/Trout - do you want me to post my findings or keep it to myself? Happy to do either seeing as you've both been cool enough to let me test both.

BTW - the "same time" thing is actually a bit of a coincidence, not intended! I'm not qualified to do an indepth test anyway - just like the look of both and lucky enough that both of you will let me test one. TBH that (to me) is flipping amazing in itself.

Matt
I happy for your opinion warts an all on mine to be posted.

Blue for me, looks brighter than the black

Prefer the blue on high, but the black on low... sorry, thats probably not a huge help is it... overall, I reckon blue, there's just too much glare on the black/high

black

Black! Black! Black!

I have been running a Liberator with all XPG's for the last 2 weeks and for my eyes and outright breath taking brightness and trail illumination it ticks all the right boxes and then some.
I also have been able to compare it to a trout mini beamshot and colour which uses the Natural XPE's and in my opinion the XPG's win by a country mile.

But as with anything subjective like this, each rider will have different needs and eyesight and opinions and preferences.

Unless you have them side by side you'd be pushed to remember the difference I reckon. Either way, Black or Blue, you'll be getting alot of bang for your buck.
😀

Surf_Mat.

Yeah, as what Trout posted, I'm cool with it, run'em as you want to.
😀

Thats a lot of lumens you're gonna have there. You might find you mates want you to ride in front.
😉

Actually if I did switch both on at the same time, it would be around 4000 lumens - An AWACS may well be alerted then I might be carpet bombed by a B2!

[i]An AWACS may well be alerted then I might be carpet bombed by a B2[/i]

LoL, yeah, its certainly would get some attention.

😀

EDIT: I think You're the first person who's managed to get both lights for loan at the same time.
Good Effort
😉

Having used the Liberator, Mini & 7UP I'd be really interested in a comparison.

Fair play to both sides for letting this run 🙂

Riding in front is definitely a plan though, as your mates will end up in a silhouette of doom cast by yourself and crash 🙁

Blue

Riding behind is a better marketing ploy as they will all need a new light . 😈
or you will end up with no mates to night ride with .

blue!

The "same time" element is definitely a bit of an accident - honestly!

Anyway whichever I prefer, I really am impressed with both already. Wickedly powerful, UK made, the very latest LED technology yet much cheaper but probably better made than known brands (that won't let you test their £400++ lights).

If you want mega power, it seems a no brainer to me - either a Luminous or a Troutie; depending on personal preference.

Tending to go more for the Black, but as already mentioned, using a 4-2 arrangement might be worth trying ?.

OK in the interest of fairness here is a shot of a 7UP OK not Lumis but the same stuff inside .and taken last night with the others
apart from it has 4 XPGs and 3 XPEs naturals to try and give a longer throw

but I am sold out of these and wont have more this year

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Yeap. That 7-Up uses the similar equipment as my 701, but the combined LEDs are a Trout idea, as far as I know.

My 701 uses either all XP-G or all XP-E. But the mixed LED boards are available now.

😀

Model 701 is a monster, I mean loads of light, fierce.
8)

Lum - got any info on your other lights anywhere on the net?

Surf_Mat.

Yeah, new website any day now.

But more of that elsewhere, as this is Trouty's beamshot thread
😉

Cheers.

Without commenting on colour temperature difference (camera and monitor could throw that out), I prefer black on both. As said above the range of colour differences that can be seen in the black is much better. On "blue" everything looks muted and similar colour.

Thought this would help with all the beam shots in one go.
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All of them look completely ridiculously gloriously over-the-top.
If I had more than bastid money - I'd be in like a shot.

Black all the way for me. Blue just looks a not wishy washy to me, and i dont like the way the tree trunks look green. Though agree it's less glare on the blues. Think its subjective and dependant on the users eyes/preferences.

blue on both

Purple for me.. 😀