[Closed] How low can some people go??

I bet most of them don't even know what they're holding up. I suppose if they were in a proper league, they'd have something better to think about.

get a f*****g life, its a game of football, not a political rally,
people take their kids to these places for goodness sake.

sad people, sad lives...

no blod stained poppy on our hoops?

wtf?

Hoop = bumhole
Blood = Harry monk
Poppy = Penis
No = Lots of

you cannot understand why people of irish catholic extraction would not respect our boys. Perhaps you should read up on stuff like the black and tans, bloody sunday or a number of other incidents over the last 400 years done by our givernment and our boys there.
Does it surprise you that some palestians are not that keen on Israelis?
You may not agree with it but you cannot see their view point? I find that surprising.
Sectarian violence is unacceptable but lets not pretend we [GB] are somehow an innocent bystander on this we did put the protestants there .

sad people, sad lives...

What, for expressing their opinions? Like you're doing on here?

Do you not see the irony in this??

Junkyard - fair point.

I bet the black stuff they would have been drinking before the game will be the only irish connection in 90+% of them though...

Wow ok, thanks sc-xc, I think..

I am of Irish Catholic extraction and all through the 70s and 80s through the height of the troubles respect for the poppy on both sides in NornIrn (Coleraine at least where I grew up, but also most of Derry) was close to universal. Of course maybe we've moved another thirty years away from WW2 and that memory might be fading.

Really cannot understand people who think like this..

Well fortunately you've come to the right place. Plenty of smart people who will help you to understand other viewpoints. You might have to do a bit of reading though. Are you still keen?

Last year, Celtic fans waved Palestinian flags in protest against Israel's military action there, at a game against Hapoel Tel Aviv.

Is a football ground the 'wrong' place to stage political protest? Well, the World's media focusses so much attention on football, that perhaps it isn't.

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I have a Palestinian football shirt. It was bought for me by a Jewish friend who shares the same disgust at the Israeli government as millions worldwide. I wear it when I play football. Am I 'politicising' our kickabout? I don't give a monkey's what others think. I'll be the one who chooses how I act, not others.

They are a mixed up club , Despite being proud of being the first BRITISH club to win the european cup they dont want to be British but Irish. Ill bet there were plenty ex Armed forces in that crowd today disgusted by the banners displayed by the green brigade.

Still, good result for them today.

Isn't this just a bit of nasty old fashioned football hooliganism? I'll call you whatever winds you up and then laugh in your face...

I wanted this to be about limbo 🙁

Elfinsafety - Member
sad people, sad lives...
What, for expressing their opinions? Like you're doing on here?

Do you not see the irony in this??

mattp - Member
Isn't this just a bit of nasty old fashioned football hooliganism? I'll call you whatever winds you up and then laugh in your face...

Hardly hooliganism is it? What's wrong with someone making a peaceful protest - or is that disallowed in the UK these days?

That's an [i]extremely[/i] verbose banner. If I was going to make a potentially contentious banner that relied on being held up in the air by hundreds of football fans, I'd make it a bit more concise.

Well as long as your banner didn't contain the word verbose, you'd be on to a winner.

I thought poppies were to remember and respect ALL British (and commonwealth?) soldiers who died in battle, back at least as far as WW1? i.e. Those who died to protect our freedom. That really sticks in my throat does that. It sickens me. Thank god I have nothing to do with retarded scum like those holding that banner. They should visit the cemeteries in France and see just how many good and brave men died for them. Bloody cowards.

I think it says "no aloo stained poopies on our hoops" - doesn't that just mean either that they've not eaten spinach with last night's curry, or that they've managed to wipe their bottoms properly?

Given that it's football fans, I'm guessing that vegetable dodging is more likely than personal hygiene.

oh dear... maybe they are football hooligans and also members of an extremist wing of the peace movement..?

I've met advocators of peace and pacifism before that have found the poppy appeal quite vulgar..

As far as I'm concerned, a good proportion of football supporters are scum of the earth, just out for an excuse to cause trouble... Not ALL, but many...

Just shows how ignorant you are then.

Thank god I have nothing to do with retarded scum like those holding that banner.

Read the banner. It says 'Ireland Iraq Afghanistan'. Those are the 'shameful deeds' these people are protesting about.

They make no mention of those who fell in WWs 1 and 2. I personally don't see any disrespect towards those soldiers.

Calling people 'retarded scum' without fully understanding their point of view is a little shortsighted, don't you think?

The wearing of a Poppy can itself be seen as a 'political' act. Depends on point of view, dunnit?

And guess what, we don't all have the same ones...

I think it says "no aloo stained poopies on our hoops" - doesn't that just mean either that they've not eaten spinach with last night's curry,

😆

'Aloo' is potato, you fool! Spinach is 'saag'. 'Saag Aloo' = a spinach and potato curry.

whilst ignorance is always abundant, it's endemic in a football ground

brakes - Member

whilst ignorance is always abundant, it's endemic in a football ground

That's a rather ignorant comment isn't it? 😕

Is it? When was the last time you went to a football ground? Granted, there are always a few ****s, but then you get that in life in general. To suggest that 'a good proportion' (as opposed to a tiny minority) are 'scum', is simply ignorant and stupid.

Mind you, when Pele called it 'The Beautiful Game', he hadn't seen me play... 😯

I find those banners a little ironic coming from the "sporting wing" of the IRA...

That's a rather ignorant comment isn't it?

I'm going to ignore that

To suggest that 'a good proportion' (as opposed to a tiny minority) are 'scum', is simply ignorant and stupid.

and that

[i]'Aloo' is potato, you fool![/i]

Ah, yes, ta - I knew that, just a brainfail. Doh.

Ignorance is bliss, eh Brakes? 😉

Bez; sort yer vegetables out! This kind of confusion leads to wars, you know...

I shouldn't have called you a fool though; that's very rude of me. I apologise.

[i]I shouldn't have called you a fool though; that's very rude of me. I apologise. [/i]

No problem, anyone with feathers that ruffle that easily is best off staying away from the web 🙂

Yes but even so I shouldn't have been rude, speshly as I don't know you and you've not been rude to me.

Those who died to protect our freedom. That really sticks in my throat does that. It sickens me. Thank god I have nothing to do with retarded scum like those holding that banner. They should visit the cemeteries in France and see just how many good and brave men died for them. Bloody cowards.

Isn't there another aspect to this anyway, I think (maybe wrong) that the poppy in Eire, or Northern Ireleand is a symbol of the Unionists which puts yet another perspective on this.

Junkyard is right, many in Ireland have hardly had a good experience of their own armed forces. However there's plenty of atrocities committed on all sides in any conflict which is why it's nearly always better to avoid conflict in the first place, it rarely solves much and just means it takes longer for people to get over what ever grievances they had in the first place.

I totally disagree with their opinions. I totally defend their right to express them.

I totally defend their right to express them.

At the football though?

Rangers fans were banned from singing "The famine's over, why don't you go home" after the sporting wing complained, but I'd have thought that's just as legitamite a point, especially given home much some Celtic fans seem to hate it here.

I agree the football might seem a daft place at first, but if you think about it then they obviously wanted a lot of exposure so in many ways a football match is a sensible place to do it.

As for The Famine Song, personally I think it's a harmless wee tune. Trouble is these days a lot of people are actually desperate to get "offended" about something or other. As opposed to just laughing it off.

i know...

how could anyone sink so low to support celtic...? 😉

As a Catholic who has Irish roots and distant relatives who served and died with honours in both world wars I find that image pretty disturbing, in fact it turns my stomach.
Saying that though I can understand their point of view totally, I would just question why they would choose to make it in such a place..... A footy match for god sake!

And since when was a poppy a political symbol?! Are you for real! I was always taught you wore it to show respect to our troops who had fallen regardless of the government at the time, afterall they're just following orders right! Amazing how some people can turn a symbol of remembrance and thought to suit their own agendas.

Wonderful stuff, war and religion. Maybe we'll all be pacifist atheists one day.

mansonsoul, maybe one day we will and I'm sure the world will be a better place.... ahmen to that!

Perhaps you should read up on stuff like the black and tans, bloody sunday or a number of other incidents

Actually, I'd suggest that YOU read up on some of these incidents from different sources. PIRA weren't choirboys you know (well they probably were once!).

I would suggest that they don't now their own history

but the truth is always more complicated than a easy political point

an interesting observation is that aguably Labour were in power for all of these (in modern times)

Actually, I'd suggest that YOU read up on some of these incidents from different sources. PIRA weren't choirboys you know (well they probably were once!).

but the truth is always more complicated than a easy political point

an interesting observation is that aguably Labour were in power for all of these (in modern times)

The plantations changed the demography of Ireland by creating large communities with a British and Protestant identity. These communities effectively opposed the interests of the earlier inhabitants, who had an Irish and Roman Catholic identity.[1] The physical and economic nature of Irish society was also changed, as new concepts of ownership, trade and credit were introduced. These changes led to the creation of a British Protestant ruling class, which secured the authority of Crown government in Ireland during the 17th century.

sorry I went and had a brew mid typing and accidently posted unfinished

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland#Norman_and_English_invasions

The pro-independence party, Sinn Féin, received overwhelming endorsement in the General Election of 1918 [73 of 105 seats] and in 1919 declared its own parliament and government, the Irish Republic. British authorities attempted to extinguish this challenge, sparking a guerilla war from 1919 to July 1921, ending in a truce.[4

and there was i thinking they're just angry because they support a rubbish team........

I thought poppies were to remember and respect ALL British (and commonwealth?) soldiers who died in battle, back at least as far as WW1?

I find this mildly ironic...Just how did the British end up with a commonwealth?
From a former colony myself. I have every sympathy for individuals who gave their lives in wars, but on all sides. To some of us foreigners, your idea of liberation during the wars was merely the transition between imperial oppressors.

Read the banner. It says 'Ireland Iraq Afghanistan'. Those are the 'shameful deeds' these people are protesting about.

Calling people 'retarded scum' without fully understanding their point of view is a little shortsighted, don't you think?

Oh, I understand. I also stand by my view.

It's the typical ignorance of people who's attention spans can just about hold to 90 minutes of sports viewing in one sitting. Especially the IRA sympathising bigots that frequent Celtic Park.

Just watch the overpaid, overrated numpties kicking their pigskin about and try not to pretend you have an understanding of these things...

It's the typical ignorance of people who's attention spans can just about hold to 90 minutes of sports viewing in one sitting. Especially the IRA sympathising bigots that frequent Celtic Park.

Just watch the overpaid, overrated numpties kicking their pigskin about and try not to pretend you have an understanding of these things...

Lovely. That's simply beautiful, that! 😆

Have you ever considered a career in comedy?

Poddy; those 'retarded scum' are exercising their right to protest. Have you considered that your point of view is undemocratic?

Isn't it nice that we all have a right to protest and express our views, regardless of taste or validity without fear of being 'disappeared' by a fascist state. Regardless of the conflicts listed on these banners, their text and timing speak volumes. Poppies are associated with French poppy fields of the great war and the Armistice on 11 November. Ironically, those who now choose to denigrate millions who gave their lives in two world wars can only do so because of that very sacrifice for our freedom of thought and speech. And they say Yanks don't do irony....