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Having finished the building the house, Im now allowed to build my bike shed (and wine store and wood store).
Starting Friday afternoon with this
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and this
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Got here by saturday afternoon with a boozy lunch
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And made the trusses and purlins today, fitting them just as it was getting dark:
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Might board the roof tomorrow with some WBPly and start on the log store on the side.
Then a bit of a break as my sawmill guy is on holiday so I cant get my hands on the cladding material for a few weeks.
Pointers, interior design suggestions and insults below, and bonus points if anyone can get me a date with Sarah Beeney.
[i]trusses and purlins[/i]
snort, guffaw etc etc
So jealous...
My man shed is but a fantasy, but one thing I'd quite like is a 'secret' section with a sliding wall, just big enough to store a bike or two hung on the wall.
Mainly in case the scrots get in they are unlikely to get the best bikes, but also added bonuses of making me feel like batman and being able to stash new purchases from the wife 🙂
How much are you estimating all the materials are costing you (for what dimensions)?
How much are you estimating all the materials are costing you (for what dimensions)?
no idea.
I get a hefty discount on my builders merchant account so timber comes out quite cheap for me.
I think I pay about 60p a metre for 3x2.
Wont really know 'till the monthly statement from the merchants comes in, but when Ive finished Ill put up a post it you like.
Is there any reason why you din't use more of that concrete slab area?
Looks quite nice that.
Sarah Beeney's pregnant at the moment, I think...
[i]Sarah Beeney's pregnant at the moment, I think...[/i]
Sorry about that...
I think I pay about 60p a metre for 3x2.
😯
Get me some please. I'll give you 80p a metre.
WCA please don't get TV presenters pregnant.
Looking good that Stoner. Any pics of the Stoner towers build?
you got planning permission 🙂
The rest of the slab is for the wood store.
I need a covered area to be able to dry store up to 2 tonnes of wood pellets for the boiler and a couple of cubic metres of logs for the stove/second boiler.
geoff - Im afraid I havent gone round with the camera yet. Ive just got another days grouting to do then I'll borrow a mates wide angle lens for some pics in a few weeks.
here's just one for a mate who made the wall shelving to my design:
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and a view of the stairs/gallery
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and a dark one of the kitchen/day room before Id fitted the last few windows, so its a bit dark.
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nice shed/house skills
Forget Beeny; it's Kevin McCloud you want!
Love that bridge.
That's ace. I'll need to do something similar to our tack room and stable as some point as the existing timber upper (with asbestos roof) is rotten. The concrete slab and brick lower wall can stay, and I'll just rebuild the top half.
The house is okay too, I suppose 😉 Is Uncle Kevin coming round to [s]impregnate your missus[/s] see your Grand Design?
cheers.
Everyone was saying "grand designs" to me during the build but since we were on budget, on schedule, and didnt make it out of swallow spit and stainless steel I presumed Kevin wouldnt have been interested 😉
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Its now got proper office furniture in etc. but as I said, Ill do some proper pics in a week or so and then get them up.
Maps front and centre... 😉
We need to go walking soon
Beautiful.
Take it the rest of the slab will be covered for the wood, right? Can see the bike stand being moved out on to that in the summer when the wood stock is lower and the evening is warm... primo!
Very nice Stoner, top notch.
The purlins all run through at the same height as the trusses, have you halp-lapped them in?
yep - all truss/purlins half lapped as the roof is going to be WBP boarded, not lathed.
Maps front and centre.
Oh yeah.
I went for a bivvy walk in the black mountains the other day. Picked the wettest weekend for a year to do it mind 😉
Those crates which I assume carried the stone flags are possibley the hardest wood known to man, you need a chainsaw to cut them buggers up, grim as !
You get your man badge from james may 🙂
KKF - nearly...
Those crates were for the lime mortar which comes in an airtight plastic ton bag. We used it for pointing and repairing the original outer skin of the barn.
The flags came in these crates:
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which Im using in the garage as materials storage.
The two crates on the slab, I'm going to modify and stack so that I can use them as log bins.
Slower day today - the wood store end of the slab is a funny shape and the posts needed anchoring.
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Roofing next week and Ill order the cladding. Since the cladding may take a bit of time to turn up but the insulation and ply lining is on its way on monday I may build it inside out 😉
Looks great. I made a similar construction many years ago for an office and log store. Enjoyed doing it much more than the day job.
Enjoyed doing it much more than the day job.
Ive had a fantastic year where Ive been able to all this stuff as well as the day job.
Has to come to an end eventually though 🙁
All those beams.
Just crying out to have bikes hung from them. 🙂
Lovely job Stoner. Lovely job.
Just a thought, but you are aware that there is a popular festival at the end of this week, which involves the use of incendiary devices, aren't you? Maybe take precautions against the possibility of your lovely creation being undone by an errant firework?
You wouldn't have to worry if you lived round here though; all the wood would've been chored to make a bonfire anyway. 😆
When did you move house?
Sheldon - We moved in in September (Sold the house on the hill and the purchasers wanted in before term time - a bit early for my plans, but only by a few weeks. We survived.)
We're down near the Gullet now so you're welcome to drop in when you're in the neighbourhood. BTW how are you two, the job and the dogs?
Way ahead of you Taki. This is my old shed, the new one will be moreso 😉
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Stoner - your home is stunning. However you do need curtains 😉 House, not shed.
Our house is finally finished after 3.5 years. Got the last room finished at 11.00 p.m Wednesday night. I went to bed a very happy woman.
Just the wood store to build now. I will show hubby your pictures and maybe he'll get some inspiration.
What have you done with the paddock btw?
However you do need curtain
What on earth for? 🙂
There's no bugger around to look in!
Anyway, on one side of the large glazed area the blinds are integrated into the double glazing units to manage solar gain/privacy.
What have you done with the paddock btw?
procrastinated.
Will deal with it next year when I have the energy. Till then it's a scruffy field with pallets in it.
We've almost finished out kitchen (apart from the flooring and door) and it's lovely. Finishing a whole house done as you want it must be ace.
We've been in here 54 weeks and have (had) done a new boiler; new rads; new external doors; 2 new windows; full rewire; new kitchen; had a double doorway blocked up and opened up old doorway; put in a new internal wall; had some work done on the roof and chimney; and made a start on taming the garden.
Doing a whole barn conversion must be exhausting. Looking forward to pics.
mike - was your kitchen the one in the photo with the exposed joists and plumbing? big open plan thing? Looked like great space, Got any finished pics?
your shed is better built than my house!, looking forward to the updates.
Great project! Great house!
My dream is to do what you have done/are doing there. If only I had room for a bike shed!
My day comprised of buying 12Sqm of cheap laminate flooring and laying it in my tired old conservatory. Project total £52!
Please make sure we get more pics and a running commentary.
My day comprised of buying 12Sqm of cheap laminate flooring and laying it in my tired old conservatory. Project total £52!
from small acorns grow mighty oak laminate floors.
will put some more pics up next week then. cheers SB/clunker.
Stoner, thats Nice with a capital 'N'.
Mind you, if you ever start trolling, now we know.
mike - was your kitchen the one in the photo with the exposed joists and plumbing? big open plan thing? Looked like great space, Got any finished pics?
No, mine was built in the '70s and didn't include a single straight line. It's 30-odd feet long and tapers from 10 feet at one end to 6 feet at the other, with both walls curving. The joiner had to take 40mm off one end of a 3.2m kickboard when making the plinth, because the floor has a bit of a slope on it too 🙂
a bit of a slope
AKA a drunkards challenge?
i like the old shed too!
arent sheds great..just put new roof on mine last week.,2 shed's in the garden now
Bit of a hiatus to do some proper work and a long weekend away with the family.
Ply-lining done and insulated the walls. Will insulate the roof on Wednesday I think. Hopefully get the cladding at the end of the week or early next week.
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Must build the doors and shutters some time...
For those that wanted to know, Ive just had the bill from the builder's merchants in.
The shed is 10' x 11' and 6'8" to the verges. Another 3' to the ridge.
I get between 30% and 50% off list so these prices are for me. That's not to say list isnt overinflated in the first place, but if you want to compare with your own merchants then I pay £13 per 8'x4' sheet of 9mm ply.
Ply lining 16x 8'x4' = £210
Insulation (40mm Xtratherm) 16x = £189
roofing sheets for the lean-to = £50
Synthetic Slates for the shed = £117
Cladding will be about 45p psf, so about £200.
I cant find the invoice for the stud timber. Will add it when I can find it...
I'll probably use a roll of membrane in there too.
£300 of timber for stud, frame and trusses.
So about £1k for the whole shed.
Wheres the van? 😀
How much was the Paslode?
Or was it borrowed?
That is one bad-ass shed.
Paslodes borrowed from my builder mate who is now on a diving construction course somewhere north of Hadrians Wall.
love using them (got the brad nailer and the heavy artillery one), but they can be a bit frustrating as the battery connection can be a bit ropey and it wont fire just when you've got everything where you want it and your arm muscles are going into spasm 😉
van's cowering in the corner away from the nailguns.
battery connection can be a bit ropey
Oh yes, tell me about it. You'd think that in a £300 piece of kit, they'd be able to sort out the battery thing...as I frustratedly said to the guy working where I'd bought mine...when he said "Yeah mate, they all do that..." Reminds me, it's due its inspection and clean tomorrow.
Site's looking a bit untidy in some pics though Stoner. But you're an amateur. I'll let it go. 😉
Nice shed. Good effort. 8.5/10
Nice shed. Good effort. 8.5/10
The Supreme Being!!! He noticed me!!! I'm a chosen one!!!! 😯 😯 😯
BTW, that's an outbuilding, not a shed!
I NEED a shed like that!
Sorry, outbuilding 😆
depending on Mrs Stoner it might become my [i]home[/i] 🙂
Where can I get a cheap flue for a pot bellied stove...
Why not get a little pot-bellied pig?
Why not get a little pot-bellied pig?
Mrs Stoner's already got one.
Where can I get a cheap flue for a pot bellied stove...
Old cast drain pipes?
Has she? I don't know if I believe you. There is no evidence to back up your claim.
nice thinking there matt...
I have concluded that I f*****g hate roofing.
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Planning layout hurts your brain, too much up and downing and my tool belt keeps pulling my jeans down and takes effin' ages. That's most of this morning's work. And I havent even got near the ridge yet. 😡
Anyone with a spare ladder is warmly invited to come and lend a hand...
At least the shed is in use already...
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Stoner - how much would it cost to have some thing like that built professonally (how much would you charge)?
nice 🙂
stoner - make sure you quote woodsman based on your normal consulting rate 😉
My normal rate is £100 ph so, if you factor in all the faffing and coffee breaks I couldnt do it for less than £30k. And Id be robbin' myself, I really would.
+ VAT obviously.
woodsman - serious answer: Id allow £1000-1200 for materials and say 8 man days at maybe £150 per man day depending on where you are in the country.
EDIT: Oops, forgot the slab. Dont forget to allow for a 150mm concrete base on some hardcore, at, say £65-80 per cubic metre.
EDIT2: and really seriously I wouldnt pay me £150 a day to do it 🙂 But if you want any excel stuff doing, it will cost you £100 ph but Im a bit better at that than building sheds 😉
You're making me even more determined to renovate our stable and tack room myself when we get around to it.
£150 a day? For Stoner? Har de har har. Best paid apprentice in Malvernshire.
Looking good. Bet that roofing's a right bloody faff.
I see no evidence of Mrs Stoner's little pot-bellied pig.
A chickeny-type thing, maybe. But no pig.
I'm beginning to suspect it's all a lie...
What operation is so critical in excel that allows clients to pay £100 an hour for someones services?
What operation is so critical in excel that allows clients to pay £100 an hour for someones services?
Spreadsheets for costing a shed building.
.......and I would have put a membrane on the roof before the tiles went on.
was considering a membrane but after a chat with a man who knows he said by the time it's tiled and capped properly and since its on WBP anyway there's little need to throw the cash at a membrane that's just going to be full of tack holes anyway.
alexxxx, you can have a look on my web site if you like. Same domain as my email address.
I think Im currently working on about £1bn of projects. £800m of which will employ a few thousand people in the UK.
Now back to roofing....
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My 'shed' needs a little work. The plan is to carefully remove the abbestos roof, then knock everything back to brick/concrete level before rebuilding. It's complicated slightly by the chickens living in the brick tack room on the right and having an enclosure built onto the other side of the stable, in the orchard.
It's bigger than it looks - it's actually a stable, so that door's big enough to get a horse through and there's room inside to turn it around.
A chickeny-type thing, maybe. But no pig.
Noo
That a baby robin.
A chickeny-type thing, maybe.
Lol, spot the towney! 😀
mike, procrastinate no longer! That is a des-res in waiting!
You could always rig up a temporary shelter in the orchard for the chucks. Maybe a bit of poly-tunnel?
Liking the raised veg beds. Doing something similar next year when we get on with the landscaping.
There's [i]quite[/i] a lot to do in the house before we start on the outbuildings.
I'm sorting the roof and doors of the garage by the house before we start on the other buildings further down the garden.
This one will be last:
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You can get a truck in there...
you can never have too many man-caves.
I like the idea someone mooted earlier about building a secret compartment....maybe you have to pull a book on the shelf to open it 🙂
you can never have too many man-caves.
Maybe I should dig a network of caves under my neighbourhood.
was considering a membrane but after a chat with a man who knows he said by the time it's tiled and capped properly and since its on WBP anyway there's little need to throw the cash at a membrane that's just going to be full of tack holes anyway.
Ahh so all my years of doing that have been wasted then.
quite possibly, but dont let me stop you 😉
I was going to build a secret compartment in my shed after I got a bike nicked. Build what was effectively an inspection pit just the right size for two or three bikes. Keep the expensive ones in the pit keep the midrange locked as normal and keep the pub bike available as decoy.
I think it would be easier to build a false wall than dig a pit.
Or maybe have a flying cage that zooms up into the roof on counterweighted ropes and then an automatic hatch closes behind it...
I just worked out what the Kingspan insulation is about on Stoner's outbuilding.
Either it's gonna be "special plant growing facility", or a micro brewery. 😉
close.
Its for storing wine without too much fluctuation in temperature.
I will probably have to develop a chiller system to keep the temperature as close to 13degs in summer - there will be an insulated box inside the shed. I think I'll rig up a 12v solar & battery to some kind of car 12v refrigeration coil and a thermostat.
I think it would be easier to build a false wall than dig a pit.
Mine would've been fairly easy as the shed sits on top of a WW2 air raid shelter. I took the roof and about three brick courses off the shelter to get the level down low enough for the shed.