[Closed] Superstar pads nightmare fitting issues on Juicy 7's

Are these the sintered ones?

I found them to be slightly thicker than the standard pads on both the juicy ones and my XT ones. I ended up filling a bit off to get the clearance.

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They fit my juicy sevens with no worries.

you tried filing a bit off the rotor ?

TJ and goog if its not constructive dont bother

Are you a trained mechanic?

Try using the red separator tool juicys come with to wedge them apart further, you might find the pistons not fully seated after all.

joolsburger tried that one to no avail

TJ and goog if its not constructive dont bother

Send the pads back and get your money back and buy some quality kit?

this is a well known issue with SS pads - quality control is poor and some pads end up too thick according to numerous posts on here

Other option is to file them down to size - or fit them with the approved tool. ( a rock)

TJ thankyou much more constructive
I thnk I will go back to Avid and stop trying to save the cash

Wind out the pad contact dial as far as it will go and gently use the old pads and a screwdriver to push the pistons back. Then refit the new pads if that doesn't work call superstar for a replacement set.

Can only add that mine have been fine, and were no problem to fit, so possibly bad QC or a bad batch.

joolsburger done the usual as suggested so must be bad batch

If you do return them please let us know how you get on. I bet you the price of a new set of pads that he tells you its your fault for not fitting them properly and no one else has had this issue ( although I ave seen many posts from people who have) and that he refuses to reimburse your postage costs as is his legal obligation.

So let us know please

just to say, I've been using the Superstar sintered pads for a while now, and they last longer than the Shimano ones (XT) and I've had no separation issues. Fruit has come in for a lot of flak but at least these are good 🙂

I am using my first set of Superstar pads and other than them being slightly thicker than Shimano ones (and causing a bit of rubbing for the first few rides) they've been spot on. Thank you Superstar.

I have to agree the sintered ones I use are fine and last well.

Got them in my elixirs and had the same issues. 2 rides in and they were fine though

I find them a tight fit in my XTs but not too tight- once bedded in they work perfectly, but it was a wee bit disconcerting when first fitted to see how close it all was. But after that, they work better than Shimano's own IMO. Same in my old Tektros.

get some Hopes

HTH

I got some cheap pads for my juicy 7s' from the wooley hat shop, very good they are to, seem to last well, fit perfectly and so far the pad material hasn't separated from the backing...

I had a few issues with the Avid code pads but fitted after a bit of tweaking. Most of the SS pads I have bought in the past have fitted fine to various brakes though and performed well. £20 for original pads is a complete rip off.

Just let a little bit of fluid out the system and the pistons might retract enough?

I've Juicy 7's and have been using SS pads for a while now.

I think its less the pads, and more that the calipers need too much maintenance - especially how the pistons easily corrode meaning they don't go all the way back - and it doesn't take much to impact the clearance.

Red (sintered?) SS pads were a PITA to fit to my Avid Codes - I had to file them down in the end. I wouldn't mind so much if they actually worked...

Its the Red Kevlar ones that have been giving me all the issues
I have contacted SS so we shall see on customer service

My old Hope Minis have a bit of a problem with the pistons not going all the way back. New pads will bind.

So I usually put 1 new pad in with 1 old one until the new one wears down a bit, then put the new new one in.

That means I always have some part worn ones in the camelbak which are easier to fit on the trail and don't need bedding in.

I use Superstar sintered - they have never seemed fatter than hopes.

I found with my Juicy7's and Superstar pads there were 2 issues.
I had a nightmare initially getting SSC padas to work.

As mentioned above, the Juicy pistons are prone to sticking, which means come pad replacement time they can be an ar5e.

But, my LBS gave me a tip that really helped with Superstar brake pads (and most other aftermarket pads).
For some reason, most aftermarket pads have painted backing plates, rather than plain metal - my SSC ones had thick black paint on that the original Avids didn't.
The LBS recommended getting rid of the paint on the thin edge that runs around the edge of the pads (the thickness of the plate). I scraped it off with a scalpel. It was causing the pad to bind in the caliper and once removed, the brakes worked fine.

I have used Superstar pads now for about 3 years now I reckon, and the only issue I have had was when I left the split pin out of my Julie's and lost a brand new set of pads on the first ride. But that's hardly SSC's fault.

But that's hardly SSC's fault.

I can think of some who would say it was.

😀 That's exactly why I put the comment in!

stuck a pair in Frnt & rear of my Ones today, dropped in easier than Formulas pads and seem to work well too (sintered)

I'm with Stumpy here, scrape the paint off the back of the pad and all is good...

Be thankful you haven't had the misfortune of discobrakes (shudders) now thems bad pads!!!

Here are the latest SSC pads. None of yer kevlar or sintered shite.

Gold:

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I've used superstar sintered in my juicy 7s and now Kevlar and no problems to speak of. I seem to get through them mind but the bike is used 7 days a week and it's quite sandy round here so I don't expect to get more than a couple of months out of them.
Anyone tried superstar rotors as one of mines a tad warped - or indeed any other recomendations?

Got sintered ones in my Juicy 5s and they seem fine so far. Rub a bit though but then the old avid ones did anyway..

I had a hassle getting them in my J3 calipers, but they've lasted for ages (sintered), so I'm not overly concerned.

These threads always make me smile because I actually used a rock to assist with the fitting! 😀

waiting.....

patiently waiting.....

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my time will come

😆

I've been using SC sintered pads all this winter, and TBH they've worn better and braked as well as Goodridge G star pads.

The original formulation sintered was shocking though. I think it took about 6 miles for one set, and about 10 for the second.

FYI UPDATE BELOW FROM SS AFTER I TRIED TO RETURN

Hello, normally when the pads appear too tight it is due to there being too
much fluid in the system from the last time it was bled or through moisture
absorption past the seals over time. The pads are all ground to the correct
thickness in the factory, and it is impossible to make them thicker than
intended by accident.

Try putting the old pads in and push back the pistons and then open the
bleed valve to let the excess fluid out. Then it should all work fine.
Another thing which happens is the pistons or the bore corrodes and prevents
the pistons moving back fully. This is calliper service time and tends to
happen on bikes put on bike racks and driven down the motorway at 70mph
gritblasting them.

I doubt there are any problems with the pads as this is the first report out
of several hundred sold. Any problems please let me know.

cheers

Priceless

TandemJeremy - Member

If you do return them please let us know how you get on. I bet you the price of a new set of pads that he tells you its your fault for not fitting them properly and no one else has had this issue

hahahahahahahaahhahhah quality response - hes obviously given up reading here as he always ended up feeding the trolls !

tj - tomorrow nights lottery numbers if you please !

Here we go again...............

How does driving down the motorway at 70mph grit blast your calipers?

Unless you're travelling to the trails through a sandstorm?

Don't remember the last time I experienced a sandstorm round these parts.

The sintered pads i got from them for my ultimates wouldn't even fit in the calipers! The back plates were oversized, so i had to file them down to fit, leaving nice bare steel to rust and bind! Can't complain to much though as they work well now and last long enough too! and they are cheapest out there!