[Closed] mountain king tyres..................mm

there good swingarm protectors or step grips... 😉

If they're supersonic 2.4s I'll take them...but then as you're saying they're crap, I'm guessing they're the standards or protections.

The rubber on the supersonics is really soft. Wears quickly but grips really well on pretty much anything.

Try them with quite low pressures they tend to perform a bit better then. Mine are the supersonics and they are only ok, sketchy on loose corners so dont inspire confidence.

gf, not supersonics..

Boo! I run mine tubeless at about 25psi and think they're great.

They are the shittest tyre i have ha dthe misfortune to use. Cheap from on-one for a reason - cos they are SHIT

wont disagree.... 8)

I run my 2.4 protections at about 25/30psi on the front and they are fine, the rear with 40psi still get pinch flats but thats just about bald now so I have some Maxis ready to fit to see what all the fuss is about

Running 25 psi I would be on the rims with my big bones 😯

i ran them with 40psi in.
just very slippy on anything wet or damp.
going back to minnions, the thick sided soft ones..

my right knee thinks they are jack right

My 5 pro came with them, two weeks in and an "off" over a what should have been a nothing 10 m stretch, they are off.

Replaced with a pair of advantage's

girlfriend had 2.4's come on her lapierre and decided almost straight away to change to high rollers. She's offered to give them away to people including a good riding friend who isn't the most knowledgeable on parts.
said friend needed to buy a new front tyre and picked what he thought was an appropriate tyre. 2.5" conti Diesel. on a pitch comp that's used quite a lot for xc. tread is very similar to the kings that i believe he was offered for free.
first ride at swinley and he says how the front isn't gripping too well. "maybe it just needs to wear in a bit"

Run my 2.4s at 40 psi and love them. Wet roots, off camber, sand, all sorts, no worries. I have complete confidence in them.

Mine are at this moment in my driveway next to the bins, the scroats who nicked my wolf ridge are welcome to them, hope they break their bl%%ding necks on them

Seems I'm not going to try out newer Contis after all 😉 I was very disappointed by a folding Conti Explorer I got once as it was crap in the wet and punctured loads. Was thinking about trying the new models but looks like there is not much improvement, and I just can't justify spending so much on the supersonics if they are slightly better. I wonder whether the Black Chili compound ones would be better as my Grand Prix road tyres are actually pretty good in wet, but that's on road.

also ran some rubber queens for a while...they too are rubbish, imho.
maxxis seem to be the best tyres at the present time..

Hideous tyre. Apparently very good for dry loose over hardpack, ie alpine trail center but I dunno as I wont have them near me ever again.

have had no problems(3 rides)with mine at 35psi but me now thinks there is an accident waiting to happen.
i don,t like pain so may put the nevegal 2,35,s back on as im going north next week.

not wanting to scaremonger....
always thought posts about tyre were tosh....like tyres are tyres.
they are all made out of rubber, but seriously these things are not good at all.

Good timing with the thread. I almost bought some of the offending articles the other day.

I ride mine hard at Swinley and the Surrey hills all the time and they are much better than my hi rollers, nobby nics or specialized enduros.. keep up with anyone on the downs/twistys with no slipping. Haven't tried them on rock though.

Weird.

Testament to how good they are, IMHO

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joolsburger-thats what i thought.i,m also very rough with mine BUT from what i,ve read they don,t agree with water and i recon £40-£50 i cheap for no pain.

anyone want some free tyres

as before, my are by the bins for local collection

yeah i'll take them if they are 2.4's

Was out in the pissing rain today no probs. No rocks round here though!!

My 2.2 Supersonics lasted one ride, it wasn't even that they lacked front end grip on the descents, they lacked the rear end grip to get me to the top of the descents. Miserable. Grip like a slick, roll like a knobbly.

Ton, there were a few really slippy descents yesterday!

Sorry guys & gals, I'm a big fan of Conti's. Verticals are, IMHO of course, the best front tyre ever. Looking forward to trying the Rubber Queen 2.2 with black Chili Compound. Grrrr 😀

It's a massive difference if you run them at 40+ psi I found, not for everyone but I like them lots.

I'm a big fan of Conti's. Verticals are, IMHO of course, the best front tyre ever.

I bet you like olives and marmite too. 😀

I bet you like olives and marmite too.

Yup 😀

Big fan of Conti's.Been running the 2.2 MK UST version on my Turner 35/30PSI Brilliant.In the summer on my hardtail had a Race King 2.0 on the back and used the UST King(with a tube!) on the front.The best combo i've used.Think it rolls better and is more confidence inspiring than the Speed Kings!
Thanx Max

I think the OP is dead right - baaad on wet + hard surfaces. [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/lesson-for-today ]Another 'dodgy MK's' thread[/url]. 2.2 chili protections I use(d). Fine if ground conditions are dry, but I got a pair of trailrakers I'm looking forward to comparing.
& I aint making excuses for poor riding - think these tyres + wet multiplies my poor riding!

I havent returned to KMB since their mechanic recommended i buy a Mountain king (Wire bead) as a good trail centre tyre. Its the biggest pile of poop on ANY trail condition. Dry loose - Nightmare. Wet Rock - Nightmare. Mud - Rubbish

I have a 10% worn tyre in the garage loft which will go on my wifes bike (Cos i love her and she only rides to the shops on it)

Its really interesting how people are saying good and bad things about the tyre in seemingly the same conditions/ground types.
does it come down to how aggressive you are?

DB-> they're just $h!te.

dirtbiker100. did you just spill my pint 😐

i swapped the pair i rode on sunday to a pair of maxxis advantage 2.4s at work today.
i rode the bike home on the road....think i am now gonna put the mountain kings back on.............. 😉

I like Mountain Kings supersonic tubeless 35 psi,dont do a lot of slabby rock stuff, but there is a weight limit on them dontchknow ! 😉
Fine for Cannocks peebles not so good in mud but then again its all about the rider.
Rich

ton - Member
also ran some rubber queens for a while...they too are rubbish, imho.
maxxis seem to be the best tyres at the present time..

Shhh, don't let them hear you over there <<<<<

I thought they were the holy grail and was considering trying some.

Fine for Cannocks peebles not so good in mud but then again its all about the rider.
Rich

oy hairyface, come and ride down some steps n slabs round hebbers on em..we will see if it is down to the rider....... 😉

Horrid things, black chilli compound and all!

I think I've crashed everytime I've had the misfortune to ride a bike with them on, I forget and assume the Kenda Stick-E BG/Nev grip levels are going to be there, next thing I know I'm face down on the ground! 🙄

why do they put them on a £4200 spicy 916 ????.
not sticking up for them.just find it a bit weird.

to get in the spend budget....

I've got 2.2 Mountain Kings on my bike. They were cheap and have a wire bead, so I assume they're not any clever compound or anything.

I think they're fine. Did the Kielder100 in the wet on them and a few long road rides in the run up to it, as well as a very wet ride in Swaledale.

*cheeky* If anyone wants to send any my way, send me an email (my username 'gmail.com) for my address and I'll drop you the postage and the price of a pint via Paypal */cheeky* 🙂

I've posted about this a few times lately......

Had a pair on my new Genesis about 3 or 4 months ago. I rode them on my local trails - loose rock, wet roots, technical DH. No problems. Have ridden them at Afan, and used them for a 12hr solo at 24/12 (which was rather wet, and rooty in places). Absoluteley no problems with grip. Tidy handling, fast running tyres.

If they were useless they would have been straight off the bike as I've got a few spare pairs.

However, I was plagued with thorn punctures. I was repairing the tubes last week and had to chuck a few tubes out purely because of the number of holes in them. No thorns at all, just holes.

So, summary. If you don't expect them to have HUUUUGE amounts of grip (just look at that tread pattern!), they work well on almost anything.

For me.

Here in Wales and in Newnham.

But don't ride within 100m of anything sharp.

Phew there are a few good reviews.

I've just ordered some UST ones for my new wheels - should I start looking for some others, for through the winter (ride in the Chilterns mostly)?

I know I keep harping on but these have a recommended pressure of 50 psi. They scared me at less pressure but were completely fine once pumped up.

I assume the manufacturers know best how to set up the tyres they make?

robhughes - ha ha no not at all! just looking for a reason why some find them fine and others don't. i love hitting corners fast so high rollers do it for me at the moment but what kind of rider do the MK's suit? those that don't attack corners etc? not saying anything about those riders as i don't know any of them but just wondering!

singletracksurfer - give them a go. several people on here obviously swear by them so give em a go!

**** just bought some! They were highly rated on another "review" site, used them once at Gisburn seamed miles better in the corners than Schwalbe Fat Alberts.

Looking one or two of the smaller width MKs if anybody is looking rid for a few quid - mail in profile.

The basic conti tyres seem to have a hard compound, the verts I have do = crap.

If you want good grip go for a soft compound this probably matters more than the tread design!?

dirtbiker100.there are some very agresive riders out there he he. 😆

I ride like a child me!!! Never get much above 10mph and I've never railed a berm in my life 🙄 that must be why I like em..

I think a lot of it is down to what you're used to, I can happily ride around on MKs once I remember they're on, it's when I forget I'm not running my usual Kenda combo and start taking liberties in the corners that the MKs come up desperately short in comparison.

In fact, I don't even mind it on the rear, it's the front where I get bitten.

Have got two pairs of protection's 2.2 and 2.4. Shockingly shite. Even in dusty spain. No feel of when they're going to let go. Just grip grip grip, and on your face. We all don't mind the back flailing around a bit right, but not the front. I hear the black chilli ones are good but with such a poorly designed knob profile I'm not guna try them. Unless they're free.

I've just ordered some UST ones for my new wheels - should I start looking for some others,

The USTs are the same hard compound that people are slating here.

I've got the UST and the Protection version with the posh black chili compound.

The UST is pretty poor, tbh, while the Protection is a good all round tyre that has served me well in wet, snow and ice as well as the dry.

Bit flimsier than a nevegal or high roller, for example, but not a bad tyre at all. Especially if you ride light.

If I were you, I'd see if I could cancel that order and get something else though. Maybe a DTC nevegal if you want UST?

I like Mountain Kings, always found them fine. But then I hate Nobby Nics and Kenda tyres, so go figure. High Rollers for the win though.

minnions is were it is at...........gnarrr to the max....... 🙄

Protection black chilli 2.4s are fine here, and I'm a fat numpty who's used to supertacky minions, i'm just too unfit to keep hauling the things uphill.

I reckon y'all just can't corner.

2.2 Protections with black chili here. Brilliant tyres and very predictable in all but the wettest of off camber slabs. I'm running them at 45PSI front and rear on a hardtail. Looking forward to trying the Rubber Queen 2.2 black chili on the front with MK on the rear too.

Problem is that people go out and buy bottom of the range cheap tyres and expect them to perform.

Surfr wrote: "Problem is that people go out and buy bottom of the range cheap tyres and expect them to perform."

My Nevegals are cheap tyres, they're an awful lot better than my expensive Supersonic MKs were.

As said above MKs need to be blown up hard to work.....around 45 psi here front and rear and they are great tyres (black chilli 2.4s run tubeless for me)any less pressure and they squirm around all over the place! Not great in gloopy wet conditions but then thats what mud tyres are for!

Also they are fast and light for the size and the trade off is well worth it.

They are okay as a rear tyre if a little draggy. Found them Horrible on the front through.

I love them whether wet or dry (i have the cheapest ones in 2.0) but if you do a lot of braking at times when you shouldnt they will punch you in the face! Only time I had slight problems with them was at night at Mayhem on really clayey mud and I was braking too much as eyes refused to get used to night riding.

I looked at one today, to replace the second Eskar with a shredded sidewall (no more Eskars for me!).

Having looked at a Mountain King for all of about ten seconds, I bought another Rubber Queen instead. Proper tyres.

OP - Crap riding skills more like!

People mention not being able to corner properly on them but surely, if tyre a) lets you corner faster and harder without crashing than tyre b), the problem is with tyre b) not the rider surely?

I had a pair of the 2.2 basics. Put up with them for a couple of months but 2-3pinch flats on every ride meant they got replaced. Nice low rolling resistance but not much cop when I really needed some grip.

Now there it is - I weigh 16 stone and the bike is 28lbs and I have never pinch flatted even riding up rocks, jumping to flat, drop offs and the like.

Strikes me people didn't read the manual pumped them up too little and then blamed the tyres for their ills.

Nothing wrong with MK's and if there was I'd just change them, I'm not brand loyal or skint at all.

Sticking to the regal theme, sounds like this tyre should be remaned the "Throne" ... or prehaps "Abdication".

I've been running the Blk.Chill Kings pretty happily in dry but over wet slick rock is sketchy, so if they fit my forks am hoping to try the R Queens instead

I think Jools has hit the nail on the head.

i think jools talks boolax...............
i have been riding mountain bike since 1985.......
i have owned probably more bike that most people on here, therefore i have ridden hundred of differant tyres.
i pump my tyres up to 45psi rear, 40psi front
most tyres if pumped to the maximum rec will be too hard, and will slide on a hard wet surface...
and these tyres are the slippiest i have ever used on a mountain bike.

I don't talk bollocks thanks. If you've been riding since 1985 you must be knackered!

2.4 Superdoodad MKs are fine tyres on the trails I ride here in the South.

I'm not competing to be the most expert on here but I also have over 20 years offroad on MTB's so I'd say my view is as valid as yours..

I struggle to see my motive for keeping these tyres if they are shite as I have four other pairs in the shed and two more on my other bikes?

Ton - the 50 psi is not the maximum - its the recommended amount.

Conti tyres have recommended pressures on them.

and on wet slippy slimy slabs and rocks up north they are shyte..... 8)

teej, who the heck runs a tyre at 50psi offroad....... ❓

Me. I've not tried them on slabby rock other than the chalk on the south downs does that count as it's pretty slippery?

You wouldn't run your car tyres at anything other than the manufacturers recs would you?