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So what is your experience of real day to day child protection issues beyond the media?
Jesus wept, I can see why you're called dangerous
Lmfao, so true, mostly overpaid, useless & financed by the hard work of others, time to join the real world, just for a start drop the public sector pensions gravy train
"join the real world" = Argument FAIL
And what would your solution be for the rubbish strewn streets of Leeds, discard those who aren't doing the job?
Lanesra - you are either a rotton poor quality troll or a badly deluded thicko
Myself I think you are thick
Utter idiot you are - you need to join the real world
Anyone who works in healthcare will tell you that the increases in funding the last 12 years have improved it greatly
Anyone who works in healthcare will tell you that the increases in funding the last 12 years have improved it greatly
Yeah, but what do they know? They live in an imaginary world barely managing to contribute to the real world.
Lanesra"your a shithouse - I've thrown my real name/life up here - yours was easy to find"
I've given you almost 24 hours. What is my name? Is it really arsenail?
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I work for a huge global company (IMI) ultimately, they are very rich, however, they are at the mercy of investors, so in a nutshell..
IMI buy up companies that fit their portfolio.
The company I work for are owned by IMI, investors in IMI want a quick return on their cash.
So IMI invests the investors cash across companies within its group.
To make this cash work hard for the investor (and IMI) we have to work to very close budgets and every penny spent in making our widgets has to be accounted for, we are therefore reliant on being an attractive investment to the investors during the current recession.
I doubt wether or not if the government were to freeze pay or not that I will be seeing a pay rise anyway this year. (I have just returned tonormal working week after being on short time since Feb) I am just thankful I am not related to the car industry as the workers in these factorys and their suppliers have felt the brunt in the engineering world. I think of builders and the support services that the building trade employs as well at this time.. a whole lot of people out there are having a hard time. No pay rise will not upset me.
I'm guessing quite a few here are feeding on the teat of the state, hardly surprising given the size of our public sector, so go for it, rant, call names, spout your right on student bs ideology, you are right the public sector is well known for its efficiency, it's synonomous with effective and efficient solutions delivered by people who are by no means underperformers. 😆
Clearly I'm sure there are many good people, but lets face it the public sector is institutionally in-efficient and swamped with underperformers who couldn't survive in the private sector, end off.
go for it, rant, call names, spout your right wing student bs ideaology
You're just jealous that they can spell Ideology.
....... and the private sector is enormously efficient?
Lanesra= thick scouse git
Haven't Sebastard Coe and his mates "[url= http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711358-olympic-agency-investigated-over-100million-black-hole.do ]lost[/url]" at least 100m so far?
Now that's slack.
SirJohn,
the thing is I'm a bloody hard working Nurse who does loads of work with others from allied disciplines - OT, Physio, Social Work, Psychiatry. Psycholgy - within our team, and others such as Health Visitors, Midwives, GP's, District Nurses etc.
Most (but not all) are also hard working and conscientious, go well beyond the call of duty and collectively have saved/improved thousands of lives.
Have worked with Social Workers carrying 100plus caseloads yet expected to visit regular and miss nothing.
Have worked with a Physio seriously ill but not wanting to go for her treatment 'cos she was worried what would happen to her patients.
Nurses who come to work looking shite cos they've been up all night worrying about a case (that's sometimes me).
And all we ever get is complaints, criticism and attacks from outside our professions, people telling us we're overpaid, overpensioned, lacking in 'real world' skills right through to incompetent if we are ever human and miss something in that one case in a thousand (or whatever).
It does grate after a while.
SirJonLordofBike1
So who is going to provide the services that the old, the vulnerable and the sick rely on?
I do so hope you get sick and come under my care
lol, spelling corrected. AP perhaps just watch!
....... and the private sector is enormously efficient?
Apparently yes, aP.
Although I was under the impression that the whole global recession was as a result of the failures of the private sector.
And in in comes internet hardman Dr Doolittle. Still waiting for the email
If you really want mail me your number and I'll meet where ever you want. You can even start a new thread on the forum
So anything done by anyone employed by the government is their fault? Would that stand up in court?TJ, ZaNu Labour have failed children at every level (Baby P
Lansera given your propensity to offer anyone out in a schoolboy fashion can we just all agree that you are the cOck of STW and leave it at that?
wow, this thread has stirred
CaptJon's first post summed it up. As much as it is inefficient we are reliant on the public sector, screw with it too much and their will be consequences for us all. It's a bit like the banking sector except the handouts come in different ways i.e. less dramatic. We are all reliant on aspects of the public sector to some degree, whether it be directly or the fact it is propping up parts of the county. The private sector needs it, perhaps it is a beast that has grown too big but it's here now and we have to manage it. I think a year's pay freeze is not the end of the world and the inefficiency needs to be cleared up but those claiming they are all work shy wonders how many of you have complained when dealing with bohemoth private organisations (insurance companies, (non-privatised) utilities, supermarkets, trading websites, software manufacturers etc) and their incompetence.
the thing is I'm a bloody hard working Nurse who does loads of work with others from allied disciplines - OT, Physio, Social Work, Psychiatry. Psycholgy - within our team, and others such as Health Visitors, Midwives, GP's, District Nurses etc.Most (but not all) are also hard working and conscientious, go well beyond the call of duty and collectively have saved/improved thousands of lives.
Have worked with Social Workers carrying 100plus caseloads yet expected to visit regular and miss nothing.
Have worked with a Physio seriously ill but not wanting to go for her treatment 'cos she was worried what would happen to her patients.
Nurses who come to work looking shite cos they've been up all night worrying about a case (that's sometimes me).
And all we ever get is complaints, criticism and attacks from outside our professions, people telling us we're overpaid, overpensioned, lacking in 'real world' skills right through to incompetent if we are ever human and miss something in that one case in a thousand (or whatever).
It does grate after a while.
All that is the fault of ZaNu Labour though. Once Dave gets in you'll notice an improvement
I'll meet where ever you want.
Oh, you talk so smooth but you never deliver. Twice now I've waited for you. I feel like I'm being used. 😳
Anyway, what's my name?
Lol @ ernie.
As a private sector person providing services to both public and private sector clients there're amazing similarities in both.
Lanesra,
No fan of New Labour myself but I really doubt that things will be better for me when the Conservatives get in.
TBH I've seen lots of improvements in the NHS under New Labour, even though I don't think they've done much else of use.
My main gripe is with public attitude towards the Health/Social Care professions, an attitude I expect to worsen over the next decade.
If you really want mail me your number and I'll meet where ever you want. You can even start a new thread on the forum
LOL, what a complete and utter dick.
Shitting it again, I see.
As I [i]keep[/i] saying my mail is in the profile, why not send me an email or your phone number. Then we can arrange for you to beat me up
ChubbyBlokeInLycra - MemberLOL, what a complete and utter dick.
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/doing-something-new-my-mums-great
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Incredible, how do you manage to type whilst drooling on your keyboard?
Amongst the millions there's bound to be plenty of examples of people who are at the cutting edge, working hard but that does not of itself mean that the public sector is therefore an efficient institution, just the same as more tax equals more spending equals better everything is also not necessarily true. It's about efficiency. Remember the public sector is there to serve the public, not the other way around. The productive private sector has to support the unproductive public sector, it's out of balance, it's too large, too expensive and not effective enough.
Lanesra - why don't you sod off and bother sheep
You are showing yourself to be even more of a plonker than we thought. We know you are a racist bigot who has been banned from her for your racist drivel twice at least, we know you are a thick numpty
Why not shut up and leave us in peace.
I have no issue with the rightwing nutters who can sting a coherent argument together - all you can do is make scurrilous allegations and avoid answering anything
The last post I refer to you> I hope no one else engages with you anymore.
Nastiest piece of work on here.
TJ, give the poor boy a break, it's difficult for racist homophobe to come out and admit he's gay.Especially a scouse one with learning difficulties.
Nastiest piece of work on here.
Oh ffs, he's only a kid (I hope) let him have a bit of fun tormenting the grown-ups .....
Hmmm - my impression was he was an adult - just a nasty thick racist one who thinks it is clever to troll in such a obvious manner
my impression was he was an adult
Why ? ............my impression was he was a kid 😕
SirJon,
I don't totally disagree with you but much appears to be the fault of Central Government.
Tories under Thatcher felt that the NHS was undermanaged and inroduced a whole new tier, this has to a great extent been continued with Labour - Modern Matrons are often no more than another tier of non-productive management.
Biggest problem the NHS has in my opinion is being too good at the clinical stuff, so costly things we do get improved on, leading to being able to do them more often thus costing more.
Look to this page with the Harry the Spider wife and baby story - great outcome but oh so costly, HDU beds cost an absolute fortune.
20 years ago she would have died costing the NHS very little.
So we either keep pumping money into it or decide to let people who could survive die.
Thats t'internet for you. I thought he had a military career before trolling on here. could be totally wrong tho. Behaves like a spoilt child for sure
Lanesra!
Are you an adult or a child? It's important to know these things, especially with the internet being what it is and all...
Actually TJ, I should have asked RudeBoy tonight how old Lanesra is.
I was telling him about this thread and RudeBoy reckons Dolittle is a bit on the tasty side and that he could easily have Lanesra 😐
btw Lanesra - just out of interest, why do you want your head kicked in - is it a form of self-harm ....... a cry for help maybe ?
Well said dangerous beans - what do you think it cost for Harry the Spiders wife to be saved? £30 000? seems about right
I think Lanesra has been sent to beddy-byes.
Latest NHS costing shows £900 per night for HDU, plus drugs, plus doctors, plus specialist equipment so £30K should cover the HDU portion of the admission, plus the costs of the original maternity admission plus the cost of the SCBU for the baby plus the follow up stuff still going on.
Think the total cost will be significantly more than £30K for the Spider family hospital admission.
I think Lanesra has been sent to beddy-byes.
By mum, or the mods ?
Too much drool on his keyboard.
That's right Ernie, it's a cry for help as dolittle would clearly beat me up 🙄
Any other forum threads you discussed with RudeBoy or did you get into real life at some point?
By mum, or the mods ?
Are the mods still awake? I wouldn't be if I was a mod, I'd have set up my forks for the Calderdale steps tomorrow and be tucked up in bed by now.
Anyway, it's a shame if he has. I was found wandering naked on Wanstead flats in 1993, and to this day I don't know my real name. Lanesra discovered it last night, but s/he hasn't shared it with me yet.
So don't put Lanesra on the bench, please. I may walk alone, for ever, if he can't share his wisdom.